'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Namewithheld, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    His angle is that capitalism has corrupted the green movement, not necessarily the green movement itself. Regardless the movie unwittingly exposes the green scam that is subsidies, inefficient energy production of renewables, etc. Hopefully the smart set realize that natural gas and next generation nuclear is the path forward. The issue isn’t capitalism, but physics.
     
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  2. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    When has a film ever been removed due to being misleading and destructive? If that were the case then certainly Executive Action would've been at the top of the list. What a bunch of BS for something that was at least supposedly a strong theory.

    I guess if it doesn't fit the Hollywood narrative that's a different story.
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    They do tend to run to censorship in the blink of an eye
    But the law abhors pre publication censorship
     
  4. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Disappointed that Moore coughed up the red pill. I had read earlier that in his latest documentary he finds how misguided the green movement was and how it couldn't live up to the hype.

    But then he spins it to still blame capitalism, etc. I should have expected it.
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


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  7. bystander

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  8. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    It's shocking to me how blatant they are about censorship while pretending to be the keepers of Democracy and the Constitution which in fact is a lie because we're a Republic and they are ready to circumvent the Constitution at will through the court system.
     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    These days, you can assume just the opposite from what they say. Their policies and even simply their attitudes are going to lead to the destruction of "Democracy," "the Constitution" and "the Republic." Open borders, censorship and PC culture are strangling the life out of the US.
     
  10. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    No doubt about it. It's so obvious or is it just that their virtue signaling is actually a real human emotion. To give them the benefit of the doubt concerning their humanitarian side, it seems they are compelled to pursue it at all costs with the means justifying the end, which in the case of immigration, would transform our demographics dramatically.

    I recall during the formulation of the Patriot Act that people on the right defended the surveillance on the grounds that, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact" which in my view is an irony of strict constructionism. Conservatives were citing limits not specifically addressed in the Constitution.

    In theory, the suicide a proliferation of terrorism on our soil by virtue of unbridled immigration and civil rights enforcement to such a degree that a warrant would be nigh impossible to obtain without clear evidence of a crime in progress.

    But back to their motives. If they idea is to build a patronage complex then how better than to buy votes and invite those who will perpetually and generationally remain tied to their masters?
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    That's true. However, had you at the time told those Republicans that some day in the near future, Democrat politicians would use the Patriot domestically to attempt an illegal coup against a future Republican president, they probably/hopefully would have all said in unison, "Hey, wait just a cotton-pickin minute"
     
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  12. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Kind of like the RICO Act being formulated to fight the mafia and having it stretched to other forms of criminal association?
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I get it that it is hard to predict all possible future outcomes, but should we have been able to foresee that a Dem President (who was possibly born in Africa) would use it in the near future to attempt a coup d'état against his succeeding Republican President before he was even installed into office? I just don't know if that was reasonably foreseeable. If I could, I would would go back in time to ask my 2001 self that.
     
  14. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I think we both can agree that whatever statue even remotely smacks as on point will be made on point by those in power.

    If you can believe this, my Christian zealot ex-wife did the following against me:

    "Austin Lawsuit Challenges No-Fault Divorce Under Obergefell

    One Austin family law attorney is taking her client’s divorce case to the Texas Supreme Court, arguing that the landmark 2015 US Supreme Court decision in Obergefell v. Hodges mandating state recognition of homosexual marriage renders the state’s no-fault divorce law unconstitutional as applied to her client’s marriage."

    She was denied by the Appellate Court, the Texas Supreme Court and SCOTUS. This is a segue but it was incredible that she tried to get me declared to be her husband for life citing a blood covenant but also citing Obergefell, a ruling that recognized what she considers to be a sin!

    Lawyers and politicians and zealots do what they do...
     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This seems like a giant waste for everyone except the attorney involved
     
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  16. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    It was and it was VERY stressful and costly for me. The HUGE disappointment was the failure of the courts to slap some frivolous lawsuit penalty on her or her attorney. That was unbelievable to me.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Too bad you are not in federal court. Those judges get pretty sick of frivolous suits and are more willing to smack vexatious litigants down.
     
  18. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    It was bad. We asked for relief but was only awarded court costs... I will say a judge at the district level levied a $1,000 fine (?) on my ex for filing a motion to dismiss based upon "a reasonable chance of reconciliation." She cited the fact that I successfully protested the ad valorem valuation on our home (this was prior to the divorce; community property). It was a joke. I handled it because I had a vested interest at the time given I was making the house payment like a good little boy.

    But that was the only real sanction or pain she received. She paid it on the day it was due (six months later).
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    You have my sympathy
     
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  20. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Ha... thank you... I'm good albeit with some "triggers" I'm working on.
     
  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    By
    What happened to you is so unbelievable I bet you had trouble believing it yourself
     
  22. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Yes. The entire family is in shock. There is so much more to it. It's caused huge problems for her relationship with our children and her side of the family too. They are not pleased. Luckily, they are all supportive of me.
     
  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    ttps://www.eurasiareview.com/19052020-mexico-pulls-the-plug-on-renewables-oped/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated
    As Mexico is poised to plunge into its worst recession in recent-memory the leftist president is making cuts and pulling the plug on subsidy dependent intermittent power from wind and solar that has been driving up the cost of electricity for its financially challenged population.

    Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador won the 2018 election by a landslide. His approach to government spending — even in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic and its economic fallout — might best be compared to that of conservative icons Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.

    Recognizing that industrial wind and solar electricity bring little to no value to electrical grids, Mexico is moving to avoid the higher electrical prices experienced by Germany, Denmark, Great Britain, South Australia, California, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and other governments that have heavily subsidized their supply of intermittent electricity.
     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It is like musical chairs of doomsday nonsense

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  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Well at least AMLO is pulling the plug on wind and solar based on fact versus opinion and emotion
     
  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    @Mr. Deez What happened to the European heat wave this summer? Global warming only works in odd years? LULZ
     
  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Sorry, I should have checked before posting. Apparently global warming will be 2 day affair this summer.
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  28. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I can never contemplate how someone calls 5-7 days of hot weather a heatwave followed by 4 weeks of lows in the 60’s. Austin hit >96F for 60 straight days one summer in the 90’s. That is a heatwave. How can you take these people seriously?
     
  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    By the way, a 30 degree differential in high and lows is only possible in dry weather, so the heat there isn’t even humid.
     
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  30. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    I'm no skeptic on climate change. I believe it's real. That said, not all the consequences are negative.
    This has been a mild summer in Denton County. It's been over 100 only a handful of times and well timed rains have my lawn lush watering an average of less than once a week. That s weather, not climate, but I am enjoying it.
     
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