2020 Senate & House

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, May 5, 2019.

  1. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    This would be a nice addition to Congress. Lauren Boebert from Colorado.

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  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    That is what you call a nice side piece!
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    No dude is going to complain about her bod, but I'm somewhat concerned about that race. That district isn't solidly Republican and has elected Democrats before. She could very easily lose and cost us a House seat, despite her hotness.
     
  4. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    vote Libertarian because the 2 major parties are bat **** crazy
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  6. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    I will be VERY happy with my vote just as you probably will be with yours. The status quo does not work.
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Letting the crazy left wing of the Democrat Party fill the federal Courts will certainly change the "status quo." So if that is your goal, as you indicate, voting 3rd party will achieve that goal. But try and remember "changing the status quo" doesnt mean the change will be for the better. It can easily be worse. Much worse. Whatever rises up from the ashes to replace it could easily be something like the CCP, the USSR or even Pol Pot. You trying to argue later that none of it was your fault wont really matter.
     
  8. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    I voted for Ross Perot because I was fed up with the status quo and ended up with the Clinton regime. Wont make that mistake again.
     
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  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Will
    Knowing either Trump or Biden WILL win who of the 2 would you rather see as POTUS.
    One of the 2 will win.
    So which of the 2 would you want running our country?
     
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  10. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Actually, it's terrible for a couple of reasons.

    1. Still has the factory Glock rear sight, which is not good, and generally referred to a a protector for the sight rail, until you put a real sight in there.

    2. Drop down thigh holsters are not very good. Notice how far away from the body the grip of the pistol is - too easy for someone to come behind you and grab it, though there is a simple retention strap on it. Drop down holsters are for when you have body armor and a full load carrying set up on you, and it's hard to get to a belt mounted holster. Other than that, belt holsters are so much better.

    There is a sub-set of woman politicians who use their good looks and firearms to advance their careers. Some of them are true believers - a certain percentage are just cashing in on it, trying to rake in donations from it all.
     
  11. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Forget it Jake, it's Libertarian-town. Will seems to be a good guy, but there's no swaying the vote of a dedicated Libertarian - they wear their preferences as a badge of moral supremacy compared to the rest of us. All while being a fan of a party that's so terrible that they nominated a gun grabber (William Weld) to be their VP in 2016.

    How in the world does a Libertarian group allow a gun banner in their party - it would be like a slave owner running on the Abolitionist movement in the 1850's. Answer - the Libertarian party has always been a joke in terms of winning, but lately it's been co-oped by the dope smokers who will support anyone who pledges support of dope, regardless of their other policies.

    In most states, a huge amount of funding of the Libertarian party comes from Democrats, as a way to drain votes from Republicans. The party is merely another tool in the Democrat shed.
     
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  12. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Joe, you have nailed it! Things could indeed get much worse if Kamala, Nancy and the Squad get their way.
     
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  13. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Duck. You are right. For the first time I paid close attention to the Libertarian primary. I even watched one of the debates online. The Libertarian Party right now is run by Leftists. That is why in 2016 they let a gun control advocate in. They don't go full Leftist because there are still right leaning Libertarians, but they do everything to push them to the side or appease them with milquetoast ex-Republicans.

    There is a movement to make it more of a real freedom loving, Progressivism fighting Party. That faction is growing but not there yet.

    As a Libertarian, I will probably vote for Trump if ACB is confirmed. If he brings even some of the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq, I will definitely vote for him.

    Trump still brings big risk with his love for printing money and growing the deficit. Of course Biden would shut the whole country down day one because of COVID.
     
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  14. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    Project Veritas video, detailing Ilhan's ballot harvesting operation

    Project Veritas Exposes Ilhan Omar Allies in Alleged Ballot Harvesting Operation in Minnesota

    Anyone in Minnesota (have many relatives there) will tell you they know this goes on. The DFL will do anything to keep power. After the Wellstone seat was relinquished the DFL tried to figure out how to keep power within... here's how (video)

    Problem is, their AG is Keith Ellison. He'd cheer this on. So would congress come down on Ilhan? Not while it's Blue.

    Guarantee you this goes on in Texas as well as swing states, just in a different manner. Like the Ramsey County official said ' if this continues it's the end of the country as we know it'
     
  15. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    OMG these arguments that the US will become a communist country or worse is absurd. It is just a right wing talking point to scare people. The same as the left wing scaring people saying that Trump is a dictator etc...And your comment about the courts will be invalid a day after Barrett is confirmed.
    Just because someone does not believe in the platform of the Republican party does not make them an enemy of the state. The enemy of the state in my opinion is the "status quo" so yes I will vote what i feel is best just as you will.
     
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  16. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    You are right - to an extent. The USA won’t become communist without bloodshed. However, eliminating the electoral college will lead to the USA becoming a mix of California and NYC which is rapidly becoming more and more socialist. Argue differently while I load my AR.
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We already know from the records of the "Open Society" plus some law review articles, Hillary had been vetting judges for years intent on making "fundamental changes" to the Constitution. This movement had been underway at least from 2002. If she had won, something you were personally willing to help happen with your "protest vote," those fundamental changes would already be on the way. Fortunately, we had a 'Black Swan' event, known as Trump, to thwart their plans. The basic changes to the US system which you carelessly and foolishly discount will not come from the Legislative or Executive Branches, but rather from the Judicial Branch. Your failure/inability to recognize or grasp this reality does not change that fact. The changes will come by a thousands cuts, case by case by case. More of a creep than a bloody revolution.
     
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  18. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    I've got your six for day 1 :beertoast:
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Call it whatever you like, the real effect is what matters. You were and presumably still are willing to let Hillary Clinton (or Bernie Sanders or AOC or whomever) have control over appointments to the federal judiciary. When the US does fail, this is how it will happen. All so you can feel good about yourself.
     
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  20. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    That is where you are wrong sir. I do not have a "protest vote". I vote my conscience. I can not and will not vote for Trump or Biden. Saying that since I do not vote for Trump I am giving my vote to the Dems. That is ridiculous. Its the same as a Dem saying that if I don't vote for Biden I am giving my vote to Trump. BS.
    I do have the ability to recognize reality. Again your argument will be squashed the day after Barrett is confirmed. The courts are packed full of Conservatives now and the SC will be right leaning.
    I have a different philosophy/ideology than you have.
     
  21. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    I do not agree with you and I do feel good about myself.
     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    That is the point. The cost to the country, the world and, I would argue, all of humanity itself, is high. All just so you can feel good about yourself.
    Sorry to pick on you today but it needs to be said nonetheless.
     
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  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Will
    If you lived in Texas your feel good vote might not have impact on anyone but you, to make You feel good
    But in Ohio your feel good vote matters. One of the 2 WILL win and be POTUS.
    Whose platform will be better for USA?
     
  24. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    Your not picking on me Joe. We just disagree that's all. We can still be friends! :beertoast:
     
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  25. WillUSAF

    WillUSAF 500+ Posts

    I'm sorry sir but I don't like either platform.
     
  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Will
    I understand BUT one will win
    Surely as intelligent as you seem one of the two would seem to be better for the country.And for sure one WILL be in place after the election.
    Do you have an opinion on which of the 2 is better for country?
     
  27. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    I have a feeling his answer is neither.
     
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  28. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah. And never say "it can't get any worse" in any context.

    All that being said, vote for whomever you want. Vote strategically if you want to, or don't. It's your vote, nobody else's.
     
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  29. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    All politicians are liars and nothing they say should be believed. These two dorks are the worst I’ve seen in fifty years of voting.

    or not voting.
     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I was forced to do the quick mental math to see if this range included Jimmah Cartah, or not. Conclusion? You missed the guy who gave away the Panama Canal
     

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