How many years should a Head Coach of a major program get?

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How many years should a Head Coach of a major program get?

  1. 1 year if they are well under .500 or a major embarrassment

    5 vote(s)
    13.9%
  2. 2 years

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
  3. 3 years

    9 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. 4 years

    9 vote(s)
    25.0%
  5. One complete cycle of their first recruiting class

    12 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    A bottle of good wine and viewing a good Texas team beating an inferior opponent. That is a classic recipe for forgetting our football troubles for a while.
     
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  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I got it now, but the way you framed it above made it sound like the BB team would require a lot of wine to watch.
     
  3. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I can see how my post could be read either way. It's all good.
     
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  4. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I didn't buy the lemon off the car lot. Let the dumbasses who pimped sark write the checks. Then never be a part of a search committee again

    This is unacceptable and to think this staff can get us back to a top program again is fantasy. Not long ago we could say "WE'RE TEXAS". Now the best we can project is "we're just texas". I've never seen the program anywhere near this bad
     
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  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    No, I said Texas would have scored a TD. Before Card was injured, I was worried that we would screw up the 2 pt play after the TD and I would have to write again why Sark screwed up by going for 2 so early in the 4th quarter.
     
  6. erbutch

    erbutch 500+ Posts

    Well,Austin aint Austin and Texas aint Texas anymore. I just hope they both return someday.
     
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  7. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Well maybe, somehow, Sark might get some all-world recruits for this cycle and the next plus a couple of transfers.
    And maybe they play inspired football because of a few good team leaders who want to win.
    And maybe Sark and coach K can get their schemes and play calling act together then Sark and staff may be our answer.
    So Sark should get 3 years. We ought to know by then.
     
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  8. erbutch

    erbutch 500+ Posts

    Lot of Maybes.
     
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  9. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    Well Sark is a maybe coach
     
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  10. erbutch

    erbutch 500+ Posts

    We have had maybe coaches for the last ten years. I am ready to change players and attitudes and see if that helps. Then maybe we can have some championships again. Changing coaches has not helped.
     
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  11. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Don’t forget Sarks assistants. They get a payout as well. The the cost of a new coach and staff. How much will they demand to come to our coaching carousel?
     
  12. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    Me?
    I'm sipping some very smooth Jim Beam Honey to get past today and this streak ... that is my Rx tonight.
     
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  13. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    I will throw this out there, if Texas manages to lose to ULM to start the next season, the length of this current losing streak will/could reach an unimaginable lenght. So I say, F it. Lets keep Sark and chase a little history. We are already touching on records that date back to the 50s. It is not easy break 70 year old records! Lets see if Sark and the boys can make a little history around here.
     
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  14. MajorRules00

    MajorRules00 500+ Posts

    Yep. The people calling for his job certainly have the right to their opinion. Even if their opinion is wrong.

    For this overhaul, I'd say 4 at the minimum.
     
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  15. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    I wonder, how many people on this board who think Sark should get +1 year realize that Duke blew out KU earlier in the year. No I am not talking basketball. This team is the worst Texas team since the 50s!!!! This team makes Charlies teams look great (that is a bit of an exageration, I will confess). KU has beaten division IV South Dakota girls boarding school and us this year. Are you not embarassed?
     
  16. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Embarrassed? Not in the least. Why should any sport team's futility cause me embarrassment?
     
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  17. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    As a graduate, I am embarassed by any part of the university being aweful.
     
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  18. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I am far closer to being embarrassed by the aspects of our academic mission that need to be limited to the West Mall discussion board than I ever will be by the athletic/entertainment complex associated with UT.
     
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  19. Son of a Son

    Son of a Son 1,000+ Posts

    Three is my number. Let Sark do whatever he wants for three years re: asst. coaches. If after the '23 season he's not fielding a real competitive team, he goes.
     
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  20. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    I will agree with you that academics are far more important, but as I wrote I want/expect excellence in everything about UT.
     
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  21. gahornphan

    gahornphan 500+ Posts

    Depends.
    If you buy a house that’s a “fixer-upper” (to the less than delusional fans, that’s what Texas is), and you hire a contractor, he’s going to ask: do you want it to be just “comparable” with other homes in the neighborhood or do you want it to be the “gem”of the neighborhood?
    Now this contractor knows the neighborhood you’re moving into. And he knows in that neighborhood, your house is far from being comparable, let alone the gem. Here’s where my analogy falls apart.
    The contractor knows what he needs to make it the gem, and those things are readily available, and if you give him enough money, and time, he can get the best everything and make it happen.
    Sark and the coaches know what the team’s shortcomings are, but he can’t guarantee he’s going to get all the recruits needed to address those. He has to compete for those. And even if he gets a class full of 4 and 5 stars, he can’t guarantee they’ll all pan out.
    So the key issue becomes, like it is for all successful college coaches, can he evaluate talent and can he recruit?
    So, IF he can recruit, I’ll give him more time than if he can’t. After this season, that will be a true test.
     
  22. MajorRules00

    MajorRules00 500+ Posts

    Your analogy is good. But in today's world, everyone wants everything NOW. Info/communication is instantaneous. Entire seasons of tv shows (if you can count 12 episodes as a season) are available all at once. And waiting in line for more than two minutes just might be the end of the world.

    I see what Sark is trying to do here. And it's not going to be a quick fix. But the end result will be worth it.
     
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  23. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I like the fixer-upper analogy too.
     
  24. Texanne

    Texanne 5,000+ Posts

    Is Sarkisian the right guy? I don’t know. Nobody knows.

    But I do know this: if we fire him after one year, no coach of any quality will come here knowing that he has exactly one season to turn this dumpster fire into a winning program. What coach in his right mind would?
     
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  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I was just messing with ya.
     
  26. KBBAKER

    KBBAKER 500+ Posts

    The line is long with people that are willing to accept $30MM+ severance packages and/or buyouts! You can always find another coach.
     
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  27. KBBAKER

    KBBAKER 500+ Posts

    Charlie Strong and Tom Herman had classes full of 4 and 5 star players. Remember, "We're Texas". Recruiting great players has never been a problem. We just need someone to coach them up.
     
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  28. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    No they didn't. 4 stars, yes. 5 stars, few and far between. And attrition has taken care of most of those.
     
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  29. KBBAKER

    KBBAKER 500+ Posts

    This "attrition" excuse is growing old. I agree that players leave, but Strong and Herman at least got them here in the first place. Can they be faulted (i.e. fired) for letting these players leave the program, yes they can. However, attrition happens at every school. You have to deal with it. Maybe if Strong and Herman had "coached them up", attrition might not have occurred so drastically.
     
  30. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    OK, but how does that relate to your desire to fire Sark already?
     

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