I am finding it highly disingenuous for John McCain to call out John Lewis of Georgia for comments about the atmosphere of hate that seems to underlie some Republican reactions or push back against Obama: Lewis said the following:
Obama's speeches contain significant attacks on important minority groups in this country - people who make over $250K, peoplle who run large corporations, people who make their living on Wall Street and people who make their living in the oil industry, to name a few. These minority groups are attacked for political purposes, and the voters are incited to enact some type of legislative revemge upon them. Hate politics is pretty common.
Are people screaming "TERRORIST!" or "KILL HIM!" or "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!" or "TRAITOR!" when Obama mentions CEOs floating away on golden parachutes from their failed businesses with thousands of average Americans having lost their jobs? No. The McCain campaign had the potential to be a somewhat-respectable political campaign. Then he got behind in the polls and picked Sarah Palin. Not only is she a "pitbull" herself, but the base she attracts is the hate group that is tearing McCain's legacy apart brick by brick.
I have witnessed a lot of hate toward McCain/Palin. Hatred towards McCain's age and POW history. Turning Palin into a cartoon. Give it another try. Keep trying to play the race card.
You see what you want to see because you're still bitter about a candidate who fell off the scene months ago.
Television and the internet are amazing inventions. Too bad we get 24/7 coverage of everything these days because it forces the media to go out and find shocking stories. This isn't the first time that politics became dirty with rediculous accusations flying. Heck back in the day, being called a communist was just as bad as being called a terrorist. Just ask those that were picked out by McCarthy. The same people who are all up in arms about what people are callling Obama are the same ones who put down McCain for being old or being a war monger. Or making fun of Palin, Isn't freedom of speech great? It's politics, did you expect anything different? I love posts that start out with "I am finding it highly disingenuous" Well good, then don't vote for him and quit whining.
"I have witnessed a lot of hate toward McCain/Palin." - Pointing out weaknesses and flaws is not hate. Pointing and calling someone a terrorist is. Hatred towards McCain's age and POW history. - No one hates his POW history, please show me anything or anyone that shows they do. And his age is an issue, but no one is screaming "pull the plug and kill him now". Turning Palin into a cartoon. - No one did this to her, she did this to herself. Give it another try. - No, I think you need to give it another try. Keep trying to play the race card. - Palin has made this the issue by making sure "Hussein" is mention with his name and making him sound like a terrorist.
Are you disputing the logic behind the statement or just trying to be funny to cover the fact that you have no argument?
That statement speaks for itself, but please go ahead and rationalize. I want to see the "remove all doubt" part of another commonly used expression. Let's just make it simple. Just cut and paste this as your reply. "I wish I had an answer to that because I'm tired of answering that question."
Voting for someone because of their race is an affirmation of their race. Voting against someone because of their race is a slight to their race. One is positive; the other negative.
So a person saying they are voting for McCain because he is white doesn't have anything to do with Obama being black? Wouldn't that person be voting against Obama because he is black? Because, maybe if he was white they would have voted for him?
The part you are missing groverat are the true intentions of the voter. Most people aren't going to come out and tell you whether they voted for or against a candidate because of their race. You have no idea if a person saying they voted for McCain because he is white really didn't want to vote for Obama because he is black. The only time you do know, is if they are wearing a t-shirt like the one in your pic. So I still don;t agree with your quote and it still makes no sense. What you should say is voting based on racial bigotry is just bad.
Given the vitriol towards GWB/Cheney/et al over the past 8 years, I find the accusation of hate from just one side ringing hollow... Both sides have it and cultivate it... I don't like it, but it's there...
The vitriol towards the current administration has nothing to do with who they are as people, it has everything to do with their policies and decisions. Disgust of someone because of their actions is much different than hate/disgust for something they can not control.
KE, You use words like "equates" and "equivalent". I didn't. And don't. I suggest that hate politics is everywhere. It's been around since the dawn of man, and it exists everywhere. I'm not defending it with a "they do it too" argument", and I'm certainly not trying to equate or even rank various hate practices. I am asserting that the burden is on the author to provide context if they want me to think there is anything unusual. I am reacting like I do when I read in the paper about a mugging, a cancerdeath or an auto accident. I want to know if there's some reason why this isn't just example number 50,000 of this year. Absent a compelling argument I just yawn. Not because cancer is irrelevant but because I don't look at 50,00 cases by examining one.
What is also part of recorded American political history is that many black people gave their lives for the right to vote for white people.
Oilfield: When Obama wins, will you be proud that a black man was elected president? If other people are and they express it, will you mock them?
My friend, you need to take a step back and gain perspective. It might not be a reason to vote for him (unless you happen to also agree with his values), but to not be able to appreciate the positive historical implication for our nation screams of lacking perspective.
Groverat, no not proud in the least. Sorry. If it was Colin Powell or Condi Rice, yes, I would be extremely proud, as I am already, of the first black man to serve as Secretary of State as well as the first black woman. Obama, on the other hand, while clearly intelligent, does not have the experience to be President and he has some extremely questionable ties. I'm afraid that America is about to elect absouletly the worst person for the job at this time. Not when we are in the middle of a war on terrorism. This is absolutely the wrong guy. So, no, proud is not how I fee.
Can you explain to me what these "questionable ties" mean in relation to "at this time... in the middle of a war on terrorism"? I would like for you to clearly and specifically articulate what the danger is. If you can. Thanks in advance.
As clearly as possible: 1) We are currently fighting a global war on terrorism. 2) Barack Obama can count a domestic terrorist as one of his primary pollitical allies. 3) Barack Obama's (20-year) pastor and primary religious advisor considered the US to be at fault for 9/11. Thus, he is absolutely the wrong guy to be our commander in chief at this time.
