Biggest Narcotic Bust in Fort Bend

Discussion in 'Quackenbush's' started by Sugartown, May 27, 2009.

  1. Sugartown

    Sugartown 25+ Posts

    www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nb/fortbend/news/6443340.html

    To me this so called drug bust is a huge waste of tax payer money and law enforcement resources.This bust included over twenty government and law enforcement agencies which took over three years and hundreds of thousands of man hours to complete.

    I'm not saying steroids are a good thing but compared to all the other problems we have, illegal steroids are fairly low on the list of priorities of law enforcement.

    I just don't buy the whole "the streets are safer now" bit the Sheriff uses.
     
  2. Napoleon

    Napoleon 2,500+ Posts


     
  3. kevwun

    kevwun 1,000+ Posts

    Streets are safer bit is purely for political purposes. Elected officials are usually most concerned with staying elected.
     
  4. CanaTigers

    CanaTigers 2,500+ Posts


     
  5. Longhorny630

    Longhorny630 1,000+ Posts

    Ever heard of roid rage? The streets are definitely safer.
     
  6. The Creature

    The Creature 100+ Posts

    Why yes, I was mugged the other day by a roid-head. I guess he was desperate for his next fix. [​IMG]

    Is roid rage bad? Yes. Is it any worse than your average angry/violent drunk? Probably not.

    That tax money would have been better spent by sending it back to the taxpayers. But then, I guess that goes for most of the money our government wipes its *** with.
     
  7. Hornin Hong Kong

    Hornin Hong Kong 1,000+ Posts

    this shiould solve that problem once and for all
     
  8. DigglerontheHoof

    DigglerontheHoof 1,000+ Posts

    It's for the ******* children, you ingrates.
     
  9. Sugartown

    Sugartown 25+ Posts

  10. Coelacanth

    Coelacanth Guest

    So you guys advocate free commerce of narcotics and other drugs, such as meth, heroine, etc?

    You guys are upset that the bust was made?
     
  11. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts

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  12. Coelacanth

    Coelacanth Guest


     
  13. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts


     
  14. Coelacanth

    Coelacanth Guest

    Why not? What age limit would we use? And do you think legalization would lead to increased use among minors?
     
  15. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts

    The age limit for buying alcohol will work. And maybe a little at first for drugs like MJ, but people already know what the hard **** does to you, and those that do it now are the types that will do it after.

    Even after legalization the general societal, economic and residual legal barriers to prevent us turning into a society drugged to incapacity will remain - the stigma of being a loser, drug testing would go up slightly in certain fields, and doing many public activities under the influence will still subject one to criminal penalties and subject one to liability under tort law and so on.

    We've learned to handle the use of alcohol fairly well, with social costs far less than those seen under Prohibition Part I. The ramping up of Part II has only ramped up social costs far in excess of the benefit - drug use is ridiculously high despite illegality, state and local government budgets are bloated with foolish, sisyphusian outlays and, of course, organized criminal outfits have a never ending source of funding.
     
  16. Coelacanth

    Coelacanth Guest

    If you can convince me that legalizing drugs will lead to a decline in usage, particularly among teenagers, then I'll throw in with you. But I'm not convinced that's the case.
     
  17. NBMisha

    NBMisha 500+ Posts

    Just for conjecture, a scheme involving legalization, age limits, point of sale licensing, and intervention for abusers, may have significantly lower costs to the public in terms of outlay (vs the huge outlay of the current prosecution and imprisonment paradigm), lower costs to society by returning more folks to a productive state (again, for which prision is abysmally poor), and, yes, at the end of the road, less usage among minors.

    This latter is achieved by reducing the profit element for illegal sales in general, and focusing policing efforts on these particular transactions.

    All this seems worth trying, IMHO, versus the status quo of prisons stuffed with non violent drug offenders, drug profit motivated violence under the current scheme, and the overwhelming cost and failure of the drug war model.

    Yes, for the children.
     
  18. Coelacanth

    Coelacanth Guest


     
  19. HornBud

    HornBud 2,500+ Posts


     
  20. I_Live_In_OK

    I_Live_In_OK 500+ Posts

    What kind of drugs should be made legal? Just marijuana? If so, then that hardly eliminates the black market of the other dozen broad kinds of drugs and the destructive effects from such transactions.

    If more than only marijuana should be made legal, then which drugs are included? Steroids? Amphetamines? Heroin? Cocaine? Opium? To followup with Coelacanth's question, would the same manufacturers HornBud listed also supply these?
     
  21. MaduroUTMB

    MaduroUTMB 2,500+ Posts

    I disagree with all of the restrictions on drug use.
     
  22. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts

    Maduro,

    So you think drinking and driving should be legal? That people using should not be held accountable for negligently operating heavy equipment while doped up? That employees, like, say, hospital pharmacists and athletes, shouldn't be tested, and their employers should be able to reject users.

    Or would it be fair to change your statement to "restrictions on drug possession."
     
  23. MaduroUTMB

    MaduroUTMB 2,500+ Posts


     
  24. ihearttajeallen

    ihearttajeallen 250+ Posts

    my guess is that drug use among minors would not change dramatically with legalization. safety would increase with better product controls and more honest communication about the dangers and benefits about different substances.

    as a teacher, you may appreciate the relative ease of acquiring substances illegally. in high schools here, it is easier for a 17 year old to get a dime bag than a pack of cigarettes.

    you could distribute drugs with age restrictions(18, 21 or whatever) in retail businesses or pharmacies or coffeeshops.

    if you are passionate about reducing drug use in children or minors, perhaps once decrim or legalization happens, we can refocus our resource deployment on this issue from law enforcement to treatment(for those who need it) and education(for everyone).

    besides, we have 70 years of evidence about how the current regime does not work. maybe a few years of experimentation and data collection is what is needed.
     
  25. softlynow

    softlynow 1,000+ Posts


     
  26. Hornin Hong Kong

    Hornin Hong Kong 1,000+ Posts


     

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