Our athletic program will still be superior to them compared against the Nation, but I am disappointed that we did not get the Men's Tennis point or the half point from softball at home. Their track programs are unbelievably good and they are recruiting world class athletes just like Bev used to do. They won't be going anywhere anytime soon. If we still want to compete for this trophy, we need our golf teams to be competitive and women's basketball to split or take two from the aggies. Half a point, Connie!!!!!!! That is all you needed to do as a coach at TEXAS this year!!!!! Just beat the mediocre aggies at home!!!!!!!
In other words who gives a *$*#! We won in most of the sports that count. Give me wins in football, we split in basketball, and wins in baseball and I'm happy. Sure we want to win all of them. So we tied in total points but won the majors, I'm good with that, let them have their acryllic state of texas.
UT is a football school. A&M is a football school. The state of Texas is a football state. UT/A&M is a football rivalry. This past Thanksgiving, UT played A&M in a football game, and UT won by the largest margin of victory in 110 years. No Aggie is going to claim superiority over me with some combination of wins in cross country, women's basketball, tennis, golf, and track & field.
I admit, I hate to lose to aggy at anything. However, where we compare ourselves to national powers, they compare themselves to Texas.
Texas IS a NATIONAL POWER. It doesn't really matter.....you are right..... until some 18 year old recruit starts believing them that they are better than us because they have won the lone star thing twice in a row..............track recruits are already going to A&M over TEXAS......even basketball players are giving A&M a second and third look. In the grand scheme of things......no, it doesn't matter right now, but it could matter in a few years.
If they keep score it matters. Texas lost two points in mens tennis and womens golf where we will finish well ahead of aggy in the NCAA tourney, win either point and Texas wins the competition. Its disappointing and no amount of people saying who cares changes the fact that for 100 years if this competition had been held Texas wins but for the last two its aggy. They have stepped up in certain sports and it falls to the AD to get Texas to reassert itself in these "lesser" sports.
I left out a key word in my sentence above. What I meant to say was "However, where we compare ourselves to other national powers, they compare themselves to Texas." Sorry about that.
I'll take comfort in our 40 national championship trophies compared to the Ags 2 (both in women's softball) and 1 fake football one before World War II.
Remember the Aggies have only won it outright once in the past five years while we have won three. The one this year ended in a tie. I know they retain the cup but it was a tie this year.
let's not kid ourselves.....we won the first three, they won the next two according to the rules. It's OK. I don't like losing to the ags, but I will start worring when they start winning more Big 12 Titles than Texas and more National Championships than Texas. That's happened only once last year with them winning 8 titles and TEXAS 7. However, this year Texas won 5 and A&M 2. I think this is the year where they win the NC in women's track and hopefully Bev is ready for that.
I don't know if Cuernos is an Aggie fan or not but I give him benefit of the doubt till there is proof. When I first started posting here there were those that thought I was an Aggie in disguise (most disgusting indeed!) until one of the other long time posters that knew me let everyone know that I was indeed a Longhorn fan. According to the rules which I think is stupid and ridiculous if it ends in a 9.5 to 9.5 then the one who won it last year retains the title. In other words they add up the points as if it were a two year competition. Ridiculous and silly I know after I gave them a better alternate solution which at that time would have benefited the Aggies. If it is a tie next year I wonder what they will do. The rules don't address that. We will see.
I hate this attitude toward aggy that losing to them is acceptable. If you guys don't wake up and realize we've been passed in most sports by a&m, we won't win another LSS anytime soon. You can CLAIM not to care, but don't f'ing kid yourselves. You want to win that trophy and put them in their place. We're not gonna win this thing next year. a&m gets older in almost every sport. I just hope we can keep it close.
^ ^ ^ ^ Nice troll attempt, aggy. As much as it pains you gomers, most of us truly could not care any less about a State Farm advertisement in the shape of Texas. We are a football school. This is a football state. Here is an order of the sports most of us care about for your reference: 1. Football 2. Basketball 3. Baseball 4. Everything else. But hey, if it helps you sleep at night, then by all means, jerk away.
Congrats to aggy on the golf NC. They will probably add womens track in a couple of weeks, their first two NCAA NC's in anything in forever. You have to give $bill credit for getting the "lesser" sports at aggy to where they are. Its true that it all pales in comparison to a credible football program or a trip to the basketball final four or trips to Omaha but its sure as heck better than where they were 5 years ago and it forces us to admit aggy has improved their program. It is also a call to the Texas AD to not take things for granted and to step up in some of these sports.
Give me a break. When we won the first two LSS in blowouts, every one of us was saying "big deal, aggy is terrible." When they cut the margin down in the third year, most people thought "big deal, aggy is terrible." Now that we've actually lost and tied for it, people are saying "at least we do better when it matters." If we don't stop these excuses, I don't see us stopping the bleeding. I am a die-hard football fan and LOVE that we can claim unconditional superiority to them in that sport. But I also love the less-publicized sports, and it pains me to see us not care when aggy beats us in them. There is a reason a&m sucked for so long in those sports - their fans said they'd rather see all the money go towards football. The last thread I posted in, people said us getting beat in men's golf was a fluke and that we'd do better when it counts, like always.
I have been posting the State Farm Lone Star results since it started and yes I was happy when we won it but at the same time most of the ones that could care less now said the same thing back when we were winning it so it isn't fair to say they gloated when we won. On the whole the ones that didn't care now didn't care then. Me - I care and I don't like losing the trophy to the Aggies and I use the word losing loosely because it was a tie but even then I don't like to tie the Aggies even if we retained the cup because of some sillly rule they use for the tie breaker. That would be like when we tied the Aggies in the the 1940s in football that we really won because we beat them the year before and if you add the points from that year to the score we won. Each year to me stands alone. We actually tied this year as far as I am concerned but I still don't like it.
I hate losing to aggy. I really do. I want to kick the **** out of them all of the time. But losing to them is going to happen some. It's inevitable that they are going to win some of the games. The thing to remember is that while they glean a little here and there, we must always be the dominant athletic program. We've got to step it up in the lesser sports, though. They should never have this kind of bragging rights.
I'm still stuck on "...aggy is a football school." Actually, they are not. Aggy isn't even in the top 3 (perhaps 4)of the Big 12 South schools.
I know what you mean Longhorn Catholic. Of course in Texas Football is the number one sport far ahead of the others. The next top two (maybe not in order) are basketball and baseball. Behind them at a definite distance is track and field and then all the other sports follow. But I still want to win the trophy.
Byrne is using this to compare A&M to Texas, not the other way around. If Texas ever starts comparing itself to A&M, that's when you'll know the Texas program is in trouble.