2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

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  1. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 10,000,000+ Posts

    Well Fox Business isn't Fox News.
     
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  2. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I'm not sure that's true. Yes, the claim is making the rounds on the internet. Don't you think there'd be a lawsuit the next day if those votes "magically" appeared without the poll watchers watching the count? Heck, we're seeing lawsuits for much les significant infractions like sharpies and poll watchers being asked to stand 10ft back vs. 6ft. It's more likely the claim doesn't pass the smell test.
     
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  3. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    For starters, by not handing them ridiculous tweets on a silver platter. Keep your children out of the trough. Act like Mike Pence but tone down a bit the religious rhetoric because a Conservative remembers the 1st Amendment is not just about free speech. Discuss abortion as not something the Pope said but as a scientific fact; a viable baby is a human being. Forcefully stand up against Russia and China. Support Israel but be mindful of human rights violations in Palestine if they occur. Stand up unequivocally against Islamic Terrorism but court all religions as welcome under our torch and acknowledge as a human cultural fact; almost a scientific fact; that mankind routinely seeks answers to existential questions and the answers are not wholly provided by one religion or no religion at all. Do not agree to reparations but remember that jobs are the answer.

    And for God's sake, will someone please deal with the national debt?
     
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  4. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    I'll make a bet with you for 10k that 3 months from now the official vote totals after recounts will be less than +/- 1000 differential from their current totals in each of these close states.
     
  5. matt_lee

    matt_lee < 25 Posts

    This has been debunked repeatedly. It was a data entry error.

    No, Joe Biden did not mysteriously gain 138,000 Michigan votes all at once

    PolitiFact - No, Biden did not receive thousands of mysteriously surfaced votes in Michigan

    RUMOR ALERT: Biden Did Not Receive 100% of 128K New Votes in Michigan

    Hell even the guy who originally tweeted about it retracted it later and admitted
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This tweet was taken and share honestly. I have now learned the MI update referenced was a typo in one county.<br><br>I have deleted the original tweet. <a href="https://t.co/NXQINWDbEH">pic.twitter.com/NXQINWDbEH</a></p>&mdash; Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) <a href="">November 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    FBN was better than FN
     
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  8. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    That wasn’t my point. You already conceded the vote will change. Only question is how many illegal votes get snared in the recount and additional scrutiny. You also fail to understand that in past elections the absentee ballot vote was 1% of total cast. This year, vote by mail is like 10, 20, or 30%. You also fail to understand that mail in ballots (absentee, provisional, etc,) get invalidated all the time. You need to be prepared for the possibility of thousands of votes getting invalidated. Maybe the final number doesn’t make a difference, but there are plenty of articles about mail-in ballot shenanigans in Philly.
     
  9. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    $$$ is much more effective in local elections. That applies to Santa Clara, Seattle or Dallas.
     
  11. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I stand corrected.
     
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  12. matt_lee

    matt_lee < 25 Posts

    That's supposed to be evidence for cheating? A screenshot of someone claiming one of the Karens is his dead wife?

    Accusations of dead people voting has been the right's go to trope. It's actually extremely rare; and in this election, it's also been debunked multiple times:

    Dead people don’t vote: Study points to an ‘extremely rare’ fraud | SIEPR

    PolitiFact - Dead voters on Detroit’s voter rolls, including person born in 1823? That post is outdated
     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I thought you guys loved debunked stories, like the Russia hoax.
    How do you ever decide which debunking to go with?
    It must be tough for you to keep it all straight
     
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  14. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    I'm sure dead people have voted in elections, but nowhere near enough to swing a presidential election.

    Local elections on the other hand are a different story. Those can swing based on as little as 50 votes so fraud would be much more effective there.
     
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I took this pic of Travis County vote tabulators with my cell phone
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Graham already signaled he would be willing to wobble on amnesty
     
  17. matt_lee

    matt_lee < 25 Posts

    There's nothing debunked about Russian interference and meddling in 2016. It happened. Even the right admits it. Only die-hard Trumpers still refuse to accept it.

    Here's the US official intelligence report on this:

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf

    Republican-Led Review Backs Intelligence Findings on Russian Interference

    Intelligence director says agencies agree on Russian meddling
     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  19. PecosBill

    PecosBill 1,000+ Posts

    @Joe Fan There were 4 Karen Myers that early voted in person in Travis County Election. In order to file a ballot dispute with Travis County Clerk the full name and birthdate is required.

    Do you know the middle name and birthdate of Karen Myers the deceased spouse of Kevin Michael Myers?

    They are willing to expedite a ballot inquiry.

    Success! Found 4 received ballots for KAREN MYERS, TRAVIS COUNTY

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      KAREN DAWN MYERS
      TRAVIS COUNTY
      Precinct 304, in-person
      Ballot received October 19
    • check_circle
      KAREN ELIZABETH MYERS
      TRAVIS COUNTY
      Precinct 150, in-person
      Ballot received October 19
    • check_circle
      KAREN JAYNE MYERS
      TRAVIS COUNTY
      Precinct 314, in-person
      Ballot received October 14
    • check_circle
      KAREN LOUISE MYERS
      TRAVIS COUNTY
      Precinct 330, in-person
      Ballot received October 21
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    $100k worth of FB ads was not exactly meddling. That is all you ever proved
     
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    My sense is that Kevin Myers knows his dead wife's middle name (which is quite possibly her maiden name), but maybe I'm wrong
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Rep political analyst and former Trump Data Chief Matt Braynard thinks he can detect voter fraud by comparing absentee ballots and early voters to the Social Security Death Index and the National Change of Address Database. Braynard is president of a company that provides services for voter targeting, polling and fundraising. He has a "GoFundMe page" but thinks they might nuke it (bc, you know, that is how BigTech rolls these days). Still he is already up to ~$170k. He says he has vendors lined up for Social Security and the Change of Address data, and is "Tracking down source data on Early Voters/ABS [absentee ballots]."


     
  23. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    They'll definitely invalidate some. I wonder if the Supreme court will say BS to the "no/illegible postmark" stuff in Pennsylvania.
     
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  24. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    My first thought would be that a screenshot of a Facebook post is also shady, but maybe that's just me. There are plenty of trolls out there who could create the account in a minute, find a common last name, and make a post like this. But maybe I'm wrong.

    I guess a better question would be that if you want to go to court over this, there is recourse for you.
     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    You want me to sue you over a disagreement on Hornfans?
    That would have to start with you posting your full name and address here (needed for service) and that of your parents too, if applicable
     
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  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Trump overperformance against RCP averages in swing states:

    OH: 7.2
    WI: 6.2
    IA: 6.2
    TX: 4.4
    FL: 4.3
    NV: 1.5
    NC: 1.2
    PA: 1.1
     
  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Which had zero impact on votes. There is counter evidence ignored by Brennan that Putin wanted Hillary to win.
     
  28. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Sorry, not "you," Joe Fan. The ethereal "you" as in the party or Mr. Myers himself or the RNC or whoever wants to take this matter.
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    OK then
     
  30. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    See how reasonable we are, fellas?
    I've never heard those words from the "other" side.
    Guess you guys are never wrong...or haven't seen enough "evidence" yet.
    We just want the truth.
    Can we all agree to this?
     
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