2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by ProdigalHorn, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. theiioftx

    theiioftx 2,500+ Posts

    Meanwhile the Dow is over 27,000 today. If the economy continues at this pace, the dems do not stand a chance.
     
  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them intentionally try to cause an economic downturn somehow just to to blame Trump. No idea how they would do that, but it wouldn't surprise me.
     
  3. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    All that would have to happen to hurt the economy (at least on the surface) is raise the Fed Reserve rate. That would choke off economic activity. That is probably why you have heard Trump telling the Fed Chairman to keep the rates low.

    Now, long term, the rates need to be allowed to float so that they represent the true consumer value of consumption vs. savings. Right now the Fed has turned the dial past what is natural. The effect is that the loan market looks like there is more savings out there than there really is. Which means business investments are eating up real capital for goods/services that are not profitable (i.e. less preferred than other goods/services).
     
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  4. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    How long before Dems and media blame Trump for whatever damage hurricane Barry [oh the irony )does?
     
  5. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    All of the Dem candidates are promising to fix Trump’s booming economy. :lmao:
     
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  6. UTChE96

    UTChE96 1,000+ Posts

    So it looks like healthcare will be a top priority for the Democratic primary. It's amazing that nearly a decade after the so-called "Affordable" Care Act was passed, the Dems are allowed to speak without shame on this topic. They want to propose a major overhaul of a system to fix the last major overhaul they passed without a single Republican vote.
     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    ¿Qué pasó Beto?

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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Kamala Harris weighed on the Epstein matter, saying said the work of the law firm that represented Jeffrey Epstein --

    “calls into question the integrity of our legal system.”

    Later that day, her husband headlined a Chicago fundraiser hosted by six partners of that same firm.

    Go figure

    Harris blasts, and takes money from, Epstein's law firm
     
  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Been noticing quite a few new 'Pete for President' bumper stickers on Subarus
    He seems to be gathering some momentum


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  11. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Cruz isn't Beto's father. He's his Daddy.

    Poor Beto. Everybody but him knows it's over. I guess he's hanging around for a possible VP slot. If Buttigieg gets it, he might want a pretty, surfer boy as a running mate.
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    He won't. Beta is ruined.
     
  13. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    I think white male politicians are going to find that you can't get anywhere being a Democrat SJW. Notice Biden and Sanders both pushed back on the idea that they had to apologize for their sex and race. Sanders actually said people should be judge on their merits. He doesn't have any but the rhetoric worked. O'Rourke descended deeper into the SJW cave into oblivion. He basically de-personed himself as a politician.

    He called the US system racist and then it came out that his family owned slaves back in the day. He done.
     
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  14. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad 2,500+ Posts

    Well since George Washington owned slaves lets retroactively forfeit the revolutionary war. Sorry England, will you take us back?
     
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  15. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Nooo, not England! They'd be worse than Bernie or AOC!
     
  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    No, they wouldn't.
     
  17. theiioftx

    theiioftx 2,500+ Posts

    Bernie raising his staff hourly rate to $15 per hour after complaints surfaced that he wasn’t following his own “living wage” mantra.

    Of course, he needs to cut their hours to pay for it. Feel the burn?
     
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  18. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    And yet people will still say the minimum wage needs to be raised. This is exactly what will happen to many businesses. They will have to cut hours.

    Morons.
     
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  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    The minimum wage is a classic example of what should be a state and local issue. We shouldn't have a federal minimum wage.
     
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  20. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 1,000+ Posts

    I would prefer it to be a supply and demand issue.
     
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  21. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I agree, but I don't think many states would go with that.
     
  22. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 1,000+ Posts

    Of course they wouldn't. Politicians know what is best for everyone so why let freedom interfere with their ego?
     
  23. Monahorns

    Monahorns 1,000+ Posts

    Ding ding ding. We have a winner. There are 2 huge problems with minimum wage laws.

    First, they are lies. The real minimum wage is $0, not whatever number a lawyer writes in a bill.

    Second, they lead to increased unemployment.
     
  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    What am I missing? Or don't understand?
    Republicans assert raising the minimum wage by law results in loss of jobs or hours
    Bernie and the other Dem candidates campaign for $ 15.00 hr minimum wage.
    Bernie gets caught not paying his own staffers $15.00 .
    When they complain he raises their hourly wage BUT as predicted in a post above he cut their hours.
    Bernie Sanders admits he will CUT the hours of staffers who are not getting the $15 minimum wage | Daily Mail Online

    How stupid is he ? Will the other candidates continue to call for the increase?
     
  25. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 1,000+ Posts

     
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  26. horninchicago

    horninchicago 2,500+ Posts

    It isn't that he is stupid. It's that many of the people ranting about needing $15/hr. are stupid. They are stupid enough to keep voting for Democrats.
     
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  27. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Bernie is like socialists all over the world. The laws they make aren't for the socialist party elite. They're for the dumbasses who voted them into power in the first place.
     
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  28. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    I don't like Socialists
    I don't like corporate a-holes
    I don't like religious zealots
    I don't like arrogant atheists
    I don't like racists
    I don't like race-baiters
    I don't like borrow and spend
    I don't like tax and spend
    I don't like politicians
    I don't like activists
    I don't like Trump
    I don't like AOC

    But I like Hornfans.com...
     
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  29. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    Whew! Glad we made the cut!
     
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  30. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    It's not how stupid he is; it's how stupid his followers are. They believe in the feel good rhetoric.
     

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