2020 Recruiting - Football

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Joe Fan, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Some are suggesting maybe the Mormons stepped up with medical cost help. They do help each other out, this much I know for sure. But I dont know if this is true about Jordan. I did look it up and google says 40% of that school is Mormon.
     
  2. LousianaHorn

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  3. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    I would like to see Texas go get some big brutes from up North for our OL instead of just Texas kids.... States like Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc seem to have great OL year in and year out who end up in the NFL. Schools from the North always raid the South for skill guys, so we should raid their territory for the bad-*** OL they produce.
     
  4. #2is#1

    #2is#1 1,000+ Posts

    Rising was a big part of this Texas commit flipping to the Utes?
    I just became a Jake Bentley fan.
     
  5. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Need to send her some Longhorn gear. Last tweet I saw from her she could not find any.
     
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  6. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Yeah, right. An immature kid who did not understand why he could not start as an incoming freshman.
     
  7. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    If he did not really want to be a Longhorn, best time to establish that is now.
     
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  8. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Is that not impermissible benefits according to the NCAA? Maybe they just did it out of the kindness of their hearts? Right.
     
  9. #2is#1

    #2is#1 1,000+ Posts

    JF, Bradford seems to have a higher grade, and ceiling. Was it just the style we preferred Jordon?
    We sure missed a Tre Watson type in the offense this year.
     
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  10. Chop

    Chop 2,500+ Posts

    Re: Jordan / Bradford

    They appear to me to be different sorts of players.

    Jordan = Lightning quick "scat back." Will probably line up at WR and RB and be put in motion frequently. Also a possible return man. An APB/ATH play maker.

    Bradford = Bigger and stronger than Jordan. An "every down back." A straight-up RB in college. Your normal RB: not a power back, but not a scat back either.

    While I really wanted Jordan, as this season has shown, you can never have too many good "every down" backs.
     
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  11. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I believe if Lake Travis and Duncanville wins this weekend, we will have a showdown between our 2020 QB recruits for the title.

    :yikes: :popcorn:
     
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  12. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    No doubt played in Matt Rhule's back yard or The Cesspool on the Brazos.
     
  13. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 1,000+ Posts

    There is one giant hole in this theory. Mormons are notorious for being the biggest tightwads on the planet. They give their money to their church and keep the rest. I'm pretty sure that if any extra monetary benefits came in the recruitment, it didn't come from the Mormons.
     
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  14. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    U of Utah is not
    Mormons make up 36% of the U of Utah student body. Utah State student body is 80% Mormon while BYU is almost 100%. only 450 students out of 30,000 are not Mormon.

    If you were looking for Mormon support with medical help, University of Utah would not be where you would go.
     
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  15. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    If you are looking for medical help, the entire state of Utah is not where you want to go. Quality of healthcare is not the best in that state.
     
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  16. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    What I was thinking. I guess when a non-starter twice redshirted player is your big influencer, things are in reality a little murky for you.
     
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  17. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I have personally witnessed them do it, at least with their own members. I got the impression in talking to them that they did it with some regularity. The guys I knew were executives/engineers at Nucor. There were strings attached, for example, you had to attend church-related functions on a regular basis, stuff like that. But they were generous, with both time and money.

    Ive also spent time in Utah (tried a bunch of cases there, often with a mormon along) and Idaho (friends - I do love that state). So Ive seen the poverty many of those members lived in, which I guess is what you are referring -- big families, big tithes, poor living conditions. Seemed to be all over the rural areas of those two states, plus Wyoming. But Ive also seen the generous side. Like much of life, its a more complicated story that the simple way you lay it out.
     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    DT Sawyer Goram-Welch of Longview supposed to OV to Texas next weekend.
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  22. #2is#1

    #2is#1 1,000+ Posts

    I can’t disagree with anything you said.
    I know it’s like talking about your kids, talking about and comparing recruits. Bijan is a complete stud, and I’m excited about him.
    But, like the NFL’s premium by position. A shut down corner is typically a much higher grade than a running back. Most teams won’t take an RB early in the draft.
    On top of this thought, and given the conference we’re in, looking at Ringo’s skill set and potential I feel he’s a program changer.

    Hopefully 3 years from now we will be continuing to have this debate.
    New thread In June of 2022; Which recruit do you think was most instrumental in the turn around, Bijan or Ringo?
     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    4-star Baton Rouge DB Major Burns (6'2,175) de-committed from LSU
     
  25. caryhorn

    caryhorn 5,000+ Posts

    No doubt^^^. I wish he really wanted to be a Longhorn. But that ship sailed. Disappointing.
     
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  26. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    Hey, it's all about names in that big registry in the sky. That's why my father side of the family is so well-documented when they came to the states.
     
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  27. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    So do we go after him? Is 6'2" 175 lb. with Elite skills. Most think he needs a year to bulk up. Or he could be a cornerback?
     
  28. BurntOrangeLH

    BurntOrangeLH 1,000+ Posts

    The truth is, running backs are a commodity in NFL these days. Three good years and they're done.
     
  29. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    Don’t tell Frank Gore or Adrian Peterson that...

    I’d say more like 5-6 years.
     
  30. Austin_Bill

    Austin_Bill 1,000+ Posts

    What I was referring to was the level of devotion Mormons give to their various Universities they attend. Not just referring to BYU, but Mormons everywhere. There are as many Mormons that attend Arizona State as U of Utah. Keep in mind that in Arizona, Tempe is like a Little Utah. The thing is, No matter their financial station, Mormons tend to keep their money close. They give their tithing, but that is the #1 Charity, they might support a few other like the Boy Scouts, but supporting the athletics is just not very high on their list.

    Case in point, see how they don't travel when it comes to BYU football, they are again notorious for their lack of travel to follow their team. They are bolstered by the fact that they are in every city so when BYU does come, there are plenty of followers already there to cheer them on.
     

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