2024 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, Dec 18, 2020.

  1. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    You love me, buddy. You know it. :D
     
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  2. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Well, referring to me using ‘boomer sooner’ sure wasn’t nice. :yes:
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I don't kiss anybody's ***. If you follow my posts, I actually take issue with him quite a bit. But I don't argue over goofy stuff. I argue over policy and cultural issues.
     
  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    To be fair, those master's degrees are from OU, so we can't take them too seriously.
     
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  5. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    That's about equivalent to high school in other areas of the country. :D
     
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  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I would never be that mean. ;) OU Bubba on the other hand...
     
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  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe a low-performing school. For other schools? It's more like the GED - the "Good Enough Diploma," as Chris Rock called it.
     
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  8. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Since this thread has deviated to talk about Tim Scott's views on the degrees to which racism exists in this country I'll place this here. This happened yesterday in the Colorado House.


    Between this Rep and Boebert representing a rural CO district there are some really regressive thinking districts in CO.
     
  9. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Just glad I grew up in a time I could watch “the little rascals”, “Amos and Andy”, Jack Benny, etc, etc. oh yeah and the Jeffersons, and “Sanford and Son”.
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    It's a different time, my friend. I was at the tail end of those shows but would only offer that kids in this time have different, equally as entertaining shows to them, that don't have significant race stereotypes.

    I'd imagine before the horrors of WWII became known, Jewish stereotypes along with jokes were more prevalent. Evolution isn't a bad thing.
     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Pollster Frank Luntz betting on Trump to be the GOP nominee then lose to whomever the Democrats nominate in 2024.
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    What's weird is that the guy he called Buckwheat is white.
     
  13. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Okay.
     
  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I couldn't find any clarification of who he called "Buckwheat". The Twitter thread referenced Rep Ted Sullivan (D) who is white but it was unclear whether he was the target of "Buckwheat" or responded to the slur.

    At least one of the African American House members took umbrage to the comment.


    Not sure any historically racial slurs should be used in any context in this day and age.
     
  15. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Exactly.
    That is why I despise the application of ‘those times’ to these times, they were different and one does evolve. As for entertainment today I frequently comment to my wife how easy it was for Movies and TV to make the ‘f’ word seem normal common place language, as in every other sentence. I’ve been out of the work force for several years but it wasn’t common then and I do not believe it is like the entertainment industry would have you believe today. Yeah yeah, I’m old fashion but there is civilized conversation and then there’s filth. Filth definition has (and will continue) to evolve too.
     
  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I would have bet against this after the January 6 **** show, but now I have to agree with Luntz based on the Liz Cheney controversy that shouldn't be a controversy. The fact that it is is pretty indicative of where the party is. It's still very much Trump's play thing, and I don't see anybody beating him if he tries to run again. It's sad.
     
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  17. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I rarely use the F-word in a work setting but it's not that uncommon. At Starbucks I had a SVP that would use it for effect both in public settings (team meetings) and in my 1:1. It certainly got your attention when she used it. At Nordstrom I had a CIO that used it multiple times over the course of a single hour of a C-Suite meeting in every meeting he was in.

    The more I spend with executives at large companies the more commonplace I believe it is to use that word.

    As with most behaviors, it's still less acceptable to use that word in the lower levels of the organization.
     
  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    This is the report that suggests that Sullivan was the target. It makes little sense. It seems pretty clear that he was directing it to the member who was trying to interrupt him at the back mic. (Interrupting at the back mic is normal in parliamentary debate - not considered rude.) Once that person is identified, we'll know for sure.
     
  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    It's not just the f-word. I see foul language routinely used in articles printed in supposedly reputable newspapers. That didn't used to be the case. It's not that I'm too good for profanity. I use it from time to time, but I'd never use it in a professional setting (whether speaking or in writing). It's just tactless and needlessly coarse and unprofessional. I can't imagine using foul language in court, but I'll bet that's coming.
     
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  20. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

     
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  21. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    What I tried to say was seems to me the ‘f’ word has been elevated to replace every other swear word. I don’t give a d*** to I don’t give a ‘f’ and so forth. One could reasonably call it slang in the media. Of course our wonderful BLM rioters don’t know another word, period.
    Sorry to divert the thread. Once started I couldn’t quit.
     
  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I see. I've noticed the same thing. It has become a very versatile word. I once heard a good friend use it as a noun, verb, adjective, and adverb in the same sentence.
     
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  23. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I guess this puts an end to your often used testicular commentary.
     
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  24. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Mr. Deez, you could be right about this, but I can also visualize an alternate scenario. It would go like this:
    -Trump realizes that his age would be a great drawback in the general election.
    -He acts as the "kingmaker" in the GOP, steering the nomination to a candidate he favors.
    -The GOP balances the ticket with regards to gender or race to enhance the appeal to the electorate.

    Does this alternate scenario hold up to scrutiny?
     
  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Testicle talk is respectful. Lol
     
  26. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Keep hope alive. That ain’t happening. He can still make tons of money off of the marks.
     
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    The big flaw in it is that it requires Trump to have the self-awareness to see that his age would be a drawback and that his ego would tolerate someone else getting the attention. Obviously he hates and is humiliated by the idea of losing, so I don't think he'd run if he thought he would lose especially in the primary, becaue he'd have no one to blame but himself. However, at least right now, though the January 6th riot is politically toxic in a general election, it clearly did very little damage to him among Republican voters. That's why Liz Cheney is in trouble.

    And what's very telling about Trump and his influence is that his preferred conference chair is Elise Stefanik (R-NY). I generally like Stefanik. She's young and well-spoken and frankly, kinda cute, and all of that plays well in her moderate, North Country New York district, which might otherwise elect Democrats. (Outside of the New York City metro area, New York Democrats are more moderate.) However, she has a significantly less conservative record than Cheney does. Her big asset is that she's a bigger Trump loyalist than Cheney is.

    I think a big factor will be the 2022 elections. What's going to happen to the Republicans who voted to impeach? If they win their primaries decisively, then Trump might be more cautious. However, if they all or mostly get defeated, I think he'll definitely run again barring some major health problem.
     
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  28. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I’ve used MF too much.
     
  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Agree. I’m going to try to work the phrase “they get all the nickels” into a conversation today. Like, “I wish I would have gone to that Austin school, UT grads get all the nickels”.
     
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  30. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 1,000+ Posts

    Waiting for SeaHusker to comment , since this is supposedly a hot button with him....
     

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