ACA enrollment numbers

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by hornpharmd, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Pharm
    were you offering that link to try to show it as a good stat?

    did you read the article at the link?

    What happens to those ' enrollees' if they never make a payment?
    Pharm
    who pays if those enrollees make one payment but then stop yet continue to get medical care under those plans? Who pays for that care?
     
  2. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I have tried to get Pharm to answer those questions, but he cannot answer them to support ACA so he refuses.

    There is overwhelming evidence that the majority were previously insured and the majority of the newly insured have not paid. Add in the mix of not enough healthy people in the pool and you have financial trouble ahead.

    As for the skit, sad to believe that such a serious issue takes a SNL style skit to get people's attention. With that said, it was hilarious.
     
  3. hornpharmd

    hornpharmd 5,000+ Posts


     
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    hornpharmd 5,000+ Posts


     
  5. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Sure they are. In liberal world, when do you expect people to become responsible? They can have kids, vote and go to war, but need the lead idiot in Hangover to get them to enroll in supposedly free healthcare?

    We are definitely headed for ruin under democratic leadership.

    And for the record, I do not think it was beneath the President. It was very smart, just like empowering ACORN to get out the vote even if it was fraud. It got him his way.
     
  6. hornpharmd

    hornpharmd 5,000+ Posts

  7. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!


     
  8. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts


     
  9. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Tavenner's agency did not disclose how many of the 5 million enrollees have paid for their insurance plans, which is required for enrollment to be official, and for benefits to be provided to a person. Insurance industry experts have estimated that between 15 to 20 percent of enrollees have not paid yet, and one expert told CNBC.com he expects that after open enrollment closes, about 10 percent of Obamacare ernollees will end up not paying for the plans they selected.

    CMS also did not disclose what percentage of the 5 million sign-ups have come from people who previously had insurance. Obamacare critics have claimed that the bulk of enrollments have come from the previously insured, as opposed to the uninsured that the health-care reform law is supposed to be helping the most.
     
  10. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!


     
  11. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

  12. Mr. Fiesta

    Mr. Fiesta 1,000+ Posts


     
  13. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    The front end issues have already begun with hospitals. Major cuts in reimbursement for hospitals and doctors have resulted in massive layoffs, reduction in use of safer procedures during surgery, fewer caregivers on the floors, and less support personnel working behind the scenes for critical areas such as sterilization.

    If you are entering a hospital for surgery, make sure you are first on the schedule and ask if there are any optional safety services/products/devices available for the procedure out of your pocket.

    Good luck finding a quality hospital and your choice of doctor as well.The Link
     
  14. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts

    In reply to:


     
  15. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts

  16. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Google Neuromonitoring. The procedure involves having a technician connect a device to your body to measure whether the surgeon is harming your nerves. Basically a remote neurologist monitors and communicates to the surgeon whether they are negatively impacting your nervous system including possible paralysis. CMS cut the reimbursement by 75% resulting in hospitals considering it as optional.

    So you consider less people working in a hospital a benefit of ACA? I am always amazed by your idiocy, but this tops it.
     
  17. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    If there are limited number of people working in sterile processing, you think this is good? The most dangerous bugs reside in hospitals and you want sterile processing working with the lowest paid people with limited staffing? I suggest you have surgery late in the day to prove how much you love ACA.
     
  18. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Your mugshots are all examples of Medicare and medicaid fraud. Government programs are the biggest victims of fraud and ACA will dwarf those two programs. Thanks for confirming just how stupid you are.
     
  19. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts


     
  20. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts


     
  21. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Rog, don't assume your imagined process is reality


     
  22. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts


     
  23. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts


     
  24. NEWDOC2002

    NEWDOC2002 1,000+ Posts

    Rog,

    Please detail your extensive medical background and experience in either clinical medicine or medical administration. We are all ears.

    And I can tell you firsthand the last people needing payment cuts and salary reductions in medicine are precisely the first ones getting it.
     
  25. Roger35

    Roger35 2,500+ Posts


     
  26. Mr. Fiesta

    Mr. Fiesta 1,000+ Posts

    Best comment made about obamacare: "They screwed it up again. Can't do anything right." Rog, you're not a contractor for them are you?
     
  27. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Here is the SPD link. It is scary that idiots like you actually vote and support politicians that equally do not understand what they are legislating.
    The Link

    "On any given day 40,000 instruments are handled at John Hopkins."

    "The hospital operates with limited resources which leads to errors."
     
  28. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    This is an article talking about cutting of services in neuromonitoring. These cuts have occurred and actually have resulted in revenue reductions of more than 75%.
    The Link

    Again, you obviously have no idea about how healthcare works.
     
  29. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Health care providers announced more layoffs than any other industry last month — 8,128 — largely because of reductions by hospitals, according to outplacement firm Challenger Gray and Christmas. So far this year, the health care sector has announced 41,085 layoffs, the third-most behind financial and industrial companies.

    The following are the 10 largest hospital and health system workforce reductions covered by Becker's Hospital Review this past year. They are listed below by the number of employees and/or positions affected, starting with the greatest number. The workforce reductions were implemented through layoffs, reduced hiring, reduced employee hours, attrition and the elimination of vacant positions.

    1. LSU Hospitals. Hospitals within Baton Rouge-based Louisiana State University Health Care Services Division laid off 2,340 employees in its 2012-13 fiscal year, which ended June 30, 2013.

    2. Franciscan Alliance. The Mishawaka, Ind.-based system cut 125 positions from its Illinois facilities in September and announced plans to lay off an additional 275 employees and eliminate 650 more positions in its Indiana facilities. In total, 1,050 employees were affected by the workforce reduction.

    3. Vanderbilt University Medical Center. VUMC in Nashville, Tenn., planned to lay off 1,033 employees by the end of 2013. The major workforce reduction is part of VUMC's attempt to cut $250 million from its operating budget over its next two fiscal years.

    4. Indiana University Health. The Indianapolis-based system initially announced plans in September to lay off 800 employees by Dec. 1, then upped that number to 900 workers in October.

    5. St. Vincent Health. After announcing layoff plans in May, the 22-hospital system based in Indianapolis eliminated about 865 jobs this summer, cutting its labor budget by 5 percent.

    6. SSM Health Care. The St. Louis-based system cut 586 positions through layoffs and attrition this year. Of the 586 eliminated jobs, 206 were in St. Louis.

    7. PeaceHealth. PeaceHealth in Vancouver, Wash., slashed 500 total jobs throughout its system through layoffs, attrition and reduced hours this year.

    8. Via Christi Health. The Wichita, Kan.-based system cut 4 percent of its workforce — roughly 350 or 400 positions — this summer through layoffs and the elimination of vacant positions.

    9. Denver Health. The system announced plans this year to reduce its workforce by 5 percent by cutting about 300 jobs through layoffs, attrition and a reduction in new hires.

    10. Detroit Medical Center. The eight-hospital system cut about 2 percent of its full-time equivalent positions this year, affecting 300 employees.
     
  30. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Ole Rog will soon let you know none of those workers were necessary. They were excessive fat trimmed from the bloated medical system.

    We could eliminate 50% of our federal government starting with the entire department of education and the war on drugs which stops nothing and not skip a beat, but we're focused on cutting medical care employees.
     

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