Coronavirus

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Clean, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 1,000+ Posts

    Myocardial issues. Strokes. Too many issues with the vax. Me and my natural immunity self is going to pass
     
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  2. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    They don’t count natural immunity. But you know that.
     
  3. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    I agree with that. I have an immuno problem due to my CLL. But I'm not dying from it. I'm actually feeling great, even in the middle of treatment. No side effects at all.

    But if I caught COVID, I could die. So I think that speaks for itself in terms of what would cause my ultimate demise.
     
  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    What you have is survivable and you can recover and live a healthy long life. Layer on COVID and it would be a very difficult situation, probably not much different than a person with AIDS catching Pneumonia.
     
  5. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Don't say that around my family... but I'm living with that now.
     
  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Stay safe, man. You're in my thoughts.
     
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  7. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Thank you. I'm doing well mentally but do feel like a bubble boy. I'm going to get the booster shot but maybe not for another month. But even then, I don't know if I'll be covered. I might get an anti-body test but I don't know how conclusive hey are.

    Stay tuned.
     
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  8. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    I'm not in the medical field, what does CHEF stand for?
     
  9. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Congestive heart failure. It’s when the heart muscle can’t do its job and fluid keeps building up. Those are the people that go in and get 10+ pounds of fluid drained, I think, from their lungs.
     
  10. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    It’s a 20+ year thing. My mom’s boyfriend died of it peacefully in his sleep.
     
  11. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Myocarditis is the medical term for that. If I understand these Dr's and Nurses correctly. They keep saying this is a common side effect, albeit the worst type of side effect. The Vaccine causes inflammation. Lots of Dr's and Nurses making these claims. That and the spike proteins causing a lot of blood clotting, which effects multiple organs. I am not in the field. But this is why I won't take it. Worried for my daughter in the Army that she will be forced to.
     
  12. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I know the feeling. I'm immunocompromised as well along with poor air capacity. I'm not quite as bad as you are but if I get Covid I probably won't survive it either. You're not alone.
     
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  13. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Even the worst side effects are better than the alternative. The overwhelming majority are sore arm and a few hours of icky.
     
  14. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Well, I've gotten my two jabs and I'm on zinc along with a high dose of Vitamin D. I'm also on two meds that *might* have a positive effect against Covid. Montelukast in hospitalized patients diagnosed with COVID-19 - PubMed
    Inhaled Budesonide Reduces the Risk of Emergency Department Evaluation or Hospitalization in Early COVID-19

    I can't do much more to help myself than what I'm currently doing.
     
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  15. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    From the article
    “From previous randomized trials, we know that oral corticosteroids such as methylprednisolone are only helpful in more severely ill patients with COVID-19, and there was a trend toward worse outcomes in those with mild disease, perhaps by suppressing immune function systemically.”

    precisely what my Doc told me and testified to before Tx Senate committee and Congressional committee. He was extremely upset about the inappropriate treatment he felt the ER’s were giving early on. But of course he was blackballed.
     
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  16. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    If you catch it, take ivermectin. I’ll help you get it just DM me. It works wonders for Covid!
     
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  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    My brother died of CHEF at 48 (contracted it from a viral infection) about 16 years after diagnosis. He didn't die peacefully though. He spent some pretty horrific months in the hospital and suffered quite a bit before dying. It's a *****.
     
  19. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    COVID causes the above too, possibly worse since it is the original spike protein. Since you know you are going to get Covid eventually, why not take the vaccine?
     
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  20. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

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  21. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 1,000+ Posts

    I'm sorry to learn this, deez. Sorry for your loss
     
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  22. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    As an aside, I grew up four houses away from David (the "bubble boy"). You will never meet a nicer kid or family. You didn't say anything negative about him, but to hear some people make fun of what that family went through is ignorant and extremely disrespectful.
     
  23. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 1,000+ Posts

    Because most of us that have caught it never experience those issues. In fact of all the people I know that caught it, none have that issue
     
  24. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Damn... horrible pain for him and for your family. So sorry for your loss.
     
  25. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    I apologize if it came across like that. But I'm literally feeling the pressure to stay home and distance from anyone who visits. That includes both my children along with the children of my wife. My wife is in outside sales and she is extremely careful but I don't distance from her. This is the reality because nobody has given me any comfort in terms of what would happen if I contract Covid. I have zero immune system at this point or at least that's the mental side of it.
     
  26. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    That comment had a specific “bystander” exclusion. You take care of yourself!
     
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  27. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Darn by, hang in there man. You truly are ‘bubble’ guy. Glad you are taking the appropriate supplements to give your depleted immune system every chance. Not going to try and preach anything to you about what to take cause I know how the neg nellies respond to that.
    Hang in there - heart felt best to you.
     
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  28. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    Thanks man. The treatment for the CLL has been amazing. Major improvement and no side effects. It's just that dang COVID.

    And this is not necessarily a political comment, but thank God for my insurance. The infusions are very pricey.
     
  29. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    And qualified amen, my brother Horn.
     
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  30. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    Glad the treatment is going well. Let us know updates. All the best wishes for your speedy recovery!
     
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