Does Wisconsin have an argument with a W?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by #2is#1, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. #2is#1

    #2is#1 1,000+ Posts

    I think they do. Biggest win of the year for any team. OU lost to a weak team, so did Wisconsin. Only difference is the 2nd loss to Ohio St.
    Not saying they’re in, but interesting argument.
    Also it could be my orange glasses.
     
  2. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Long way to go.
     
  3. #2is#1

    #2is#1 1,000+ Posts

    Totally agree, and won’t be surprised if the bucks hit the throttle.
    Just wondering if this matters at all if they can hang in there.
    They have some pretty good wins, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota.
    Oklahoma not as impressive of a resume imo
     
  4. Ajo Macho

    Ajo Macho 250+ Posts

    They shouldn't, but they do.

    I've never been a fan of "Team A won more games and had a better season than Team B, but Team A's loss came on this date instead Team B's losses on those dates."

    The team that had the best season should be awarded, not the team with the least recent loss.
     
  5. Horn87

    Horn87 1,000+ Posts

    I just hope this throws everything into CHAOS so there will be an 8 team (or more) playoff!!!
     
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  6. theiioftx

    theiioftx 2,500+ Posts

    They have no chance with 2 losses.
     
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  7. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 5,000+ Posts

    They might if they keep up the level of play and production in the second half!
     
  8. Ajo Macho

    Ajo Macho 250+ Posts

    Respectfully disagree, for reasons stated above.
     
  9. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Romantic Catholic

    They’ll put Bama in before Whisky.
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    If WIS wins...they bring a much more impressive resume than OU with a tougher schedule.

    Still think the deciders want the Fields, Hurts, Burrow narratives. They might all be in NYC for the Heisman presentation (to Burrow) and are tranfers.
     
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  11. Ajo Macho

    Ajo Macho 250+ Posts

    I'm not so sure. Alabama's best win is over a five-loss, unranked A&M. Texas has a more impressive win than that (OSU is ranked in a poll or two).

    Wisconsin, at least, would have the same number of losses, one more win, a conference championship, and a statement victory. Oregon as well, to a lesser degree. And neither of them are missing their best player.

    Aside from pedigree, Alabama has no argument.
     
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  12. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

    OU would have wins over #7 and 25 with 1 loss to an unranked
    Wisky would have wins over #16, 14, 18, and 1 with a loss to #1 and 1 unranked
    With the win vs#1 redeeming/avenging one loss
    A few notes on this....
    1. Some people have been saying of this Ohio St team runs the table they may go down as the best cfb team ever (for whatever that's worth)
    2. I sure bet Wisky would like a do-over on that 2 pts. Loss to the Illini
    3. OU loses style points on close escapes to Iowa st., TCU, and BU twice
     
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  13. dangdirtysooner

    dangdirtysooner 250+ Posts

    Hard to say. If they hold on & win, they’ll have wins over teams currently ranked 1, 14, 16, & 18.

    However, they also lost to a 6-6 team & another game by 31 points.

    OU will have wins over teams ranked 7, 7 & 25, with a lone loss by one score to an 8-4 team.

    Remember a few years ago when tOSU was overlooked for having 2 losses with one a blowout loss, despite being B1G champs, in favor of an 11-1 Alabama that didn’t even win its division? Seems the precedent on 2-loss teams has been set, but who knows, this Committee is different than the one that made that decision.
     
  14. #2is#1

    #2is#1 1,000+ Posts

    My thoughts exactly. I thought it was just my hatred for Oklahoma, but Wisconsin has a real argument if they can hang on
     
  15. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

    I feel like OU would get the nod, but I do think it's the first time in a while (with no Bama involved) that a "sneaker " has come into play with what I feel like would be a pretty strong argument at least worth having.
    I can tell you right now, how this second half goes will say alot.
    If Wisky somehow wins and pulls away doing so, that would definitely heat the argument up in that committee room.
    May be a moot point..Ohio State with a quick strike.
     
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  16. Ajo Macho

    Ajo Macho 250+ Posts

    With the exception of the ACC, the differences in schedule difficulty among Power 5 teams is hard to measure and mostly based on human perception, which is subjective at best (S-E-C!! S-E-C!!). It shouldn't be used as the main measuring stick. Instead:

    1. Best record
    2. In case of a tie, conference championship
    3. If still tied, "impressive resume"

    Not the other way around.
     
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  17. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    The
    OU’s athletic director is on the committee and very well liked. Done.
     
  18. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    The only W the Badgers have today is on their helmet.
     
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  19. #2is#1

    #2is#1 1,000+ Posts

    Dang Majestic I’m impressed, I didn’t think you would get to stay up that late.
     
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  20. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    How about the team with least injuries to major players?

    the great game is beginning to look more like a demo derby than what we knew as football
     
  21. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Romantic Catholic

    I mean't they'll prefer Bama. Not arguing for or against Whiskey.
     
  22. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 1,000+ Posts

    I just dont understand how this is allowed
     
  23. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    They have to select the committee weii in advance but I'll give you they could mix in someone from a less likely participant more often.
     
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  24. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    There should be zero avtive AD’s on this crapshoot.

    Here is the current list of schools with their AD’s on the 13 member committee.
    Oklahoma
    Oregon
    Iowa
    Arkansas State
    A$M
    Florida
    Ga Tech

    They should simply admit they have no intention of fairness. Having a selection committee is dumb. Having a bunch of active AD’s on the committee is dumb on steroids.

    But the worst part is that fans fall for the flawed process and act like this is really a legit playoff.
     
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  25. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    Only 1/7 had any chance of making the playoff and they did. That's acceptable to me seeing as OU by default was the best choice for #4.
     
  26. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 5,000+ Posts

    In theory the AD of a school under discussion has to leave the room and cannot vote for their school. Key phrase is "in theory". Nothing to stop them from "you scratch my back and I will return the favor" before the discussion.
     
  27. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 5,000+ Posts

    If not the ADs, whom? The presidents? I have a big picture of Fenves asking the clown of Norman - what is this about again?

    Media? More biased than fans

    At least the P5 are all represented
     
  28. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    Predidents, no. Media, hell no! But you do not make a family member a judge in a beauty contest where your daughter is a contestant.

    There is a long list of very savvy football minds, retired and stiil employed, but out of the game, who know more about the sport than AD’s. You probably know more about football than some AD’s. (You damn sure know more than most media and all college presidents.) In addition, most AD’s do not watch as much football as you, or others, because they are at their own games.

    The selection committee is a flawed process and tainted by the use of a select few D-1 athletic directors. Best solution? Get rid of the selection process. Second best, clean up the committee member selection
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  29. Chinstrap

    Chinstrap 500+ Posts

    So when the committee was selected they knew that these other AD’s would not have a team in the hunt? Perceived bias further damages an already ugly process. Let us just grow up and have a real playoff. All conference winners and maybe an “at large” option. That’s what the big boys do. What is D-1 afraid of?
     
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  30. UTSUgrad

    UTSUgrad 25+ Posts

    Annoyed that OU is in rather than Oregon. Guessing that OU is a surrogate for Bama ... committee wants a former Ala QB, rather than Ducks. Expect the fairy tale narrative for Hurts begin soon. Wonder if Ga will be interested in their bowl game this year?:hookem:
     
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