Forensic Audit in Maricopa County, AZ

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  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Lol. I asked for that.
     
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  2. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Good for them.
     
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  3. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    So you're saying they're gullible? :)

    I went to mypillow.com. He's marketing the fox audience. Slippers, pillows, robes, etc. Smart business guy.
     
  4. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    A loud voice booms from above: "Martha, move Deez' name down the life hierarchy by four spots, immediately!"
     
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  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I wouldn't consider them at all gullible. Neither are rednecks. My dad is well-educated (went to Cal back when that meant something) and is pretty erudite. He's a professional violinist by trade and is a bit of an expert on music (classical to the present), wine, and stuff that you don't associate with the Right. He's very well-read on history, religion, and politics but also chemistry, physics, and economics. He follows the stock market closely. He drinks fancy coffee. In fact, he roasts his own coffee beans. (How many Trumpers do that?) To put it into perspective, if you've ever watched the show 'Frasier' and heard Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce crack jokes about opera, wine, and theater, my dad actually gets the jokes. Most of us laugh along because of how well they're delivered and sorta get the point, but he actually gets the jokes and can explain why they're funny.

    But he has another side that makes him a weird combination. Though he hasn't done it in years, he can overhaul the engine or transmission of a car. As recently as the '90s, he and I used to change our own brake pads and shoes. He likes sports much more than most artsy-fartsy types do.

    Either way, I wouldn't call him gullible in any sense. So why does he buy into the stolen election stuff? It's because he largely watches Fox Business, OAN, and Newsmax. Those are his main sources. Why does he listen to them? Because mainstream media sources spent the last 40 years blowing their credibility with him - too much partisanship, too many double standards, too many "errors" that always seem to go the same direction, too much self-righteousness, so he tunes them out. I still try to decipher what's real news and what's partisan ********. He doesn't do that anymore. They're pretty much dead to him.
     
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  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    LOL. I didn't think I'd go for them, but I tried them at a restaurant in Bruges, Belgium several years ago, and I simply couldn't deny it. They tasted great. The mayo seems different here. Some American mayo has a weird consistency. The stuff hear is creamier and smoother and has a very slight lemon essence. I don't know how to explain it, but it works.

    They also do fries better here. They double-fry them, so they come out very crispy on the outside and very soft in the middle. The soggy-fry phenomenon largely isn't a thing in Europe.
     
  7. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I visited Bruges back in the summer of 1994. I've told everyone how amazing it was but my memory is waning. Why is it so amazing? I seem to recall some level of unique architecture that cast a spell on me. Also, I recall every street had about 28 letters in the name. It was tough driving around trying to figure out where the hell to go!
     
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  8. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Or perhaps he looks at the election night math and knows it's ********. Not trying to start an argument but I'm willing to bet most of us that believe in election fraud don't believe it just because conservative news says so.

    Your dad sounds like a cool dude, btw.
     
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  9. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    When the huge bettors (think Bill Benter types) went all in on the exchanges around 9pm our time ON Trump, then the "math" was solid for Trump. If anyone knows anything about large betting syndicates (I'm sure mb does) they thought it was a done deal for Trump. It was stolen. I could add more (opinion) but I don't want to rehash
     
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  10. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I would have to agree that Mayo on fries is medieval just like Bruges. Medieval torture! Similar to having your eyelids cut off, buried in an ant pile up to your neck, and having honey poured on you. Well, maybe not quite that bad, but close!
     
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  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's amazing because it's beautiful. (From my visit in 2013.) Think Amsterdam but less crowded and without the dope and the hookers.


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    And they have great beer - one of my favorites.

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  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You say that as if it's a bad thing? Spent a few nights in Amsterdam and always enjoyed walking the streets just to see the various red lights. Never partook but found it interesting from a people watching perspective. Of course, I wasn't with young children but rather my wife. If you have children that would be quite awkward.
     
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  13. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I was being a smarty pants. I'm sure he's a sharp dude. He does seem a bit of a Renaissance man.

    I think he might be a good example of The Brainwashing of My Dad.
     
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  14. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Or Father Knows Best.;)
     
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  15. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I don't think he believes it because conservative media says it. I think he believes it, because the people saying otherwise don't have any credibility with him. Since they spent decades lying about Republicans in general and tossed all integrity to the wind for the last 3 years, why should anyone believe them when they say the election wasn't stolen?

    The reason I don't buy it is that if the election was stolen, there'd be massive court battles over it. Trump wouldn't just be walking away on some little standing problems. They'd cure those defects and keep the fight going.

    He really is. I'm less well-rounded than he is. He can talk about studio microphones and the nuances of the Beatles recording techniques for 3 hours, which I can't. However, in other ways we're similar. He's more extreme in personality.
     
  16. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    To be honest I don't think the court battles have really started. The courts could never help Trump because all he had was suspicious math but no tangible hard evidence. The fact that we're finally looking at the physical ballots is the game changer.
     
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  17. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    While I don't think Trump will be reinstated because of a lack of laws in this area, I do think the myth of secure elections is going to die.
     
  18. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Pour one out for our Democracy. [​IMG]
     
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  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The dirty old man side of me doesn't mind. The dad of a little boy side does. I had this problem in Nürnberg a few years ago. I took Deez, Jr. to the Deutsche Bahn museum. (He likes trains, so that's about as cool as it gets, and I'll be honest. I'm a grown-*** man and still like trains. Not sure why. I just never stopped thinking they were cool.) However, while walking through the old city, we got into the red light area - skanks in the windows in bra and panties and occasionally showing a nipple, etc. Once I realized where we were, I started walking fast. He starts asking, "Daddy why are we walking so fast??" It was awkward but less so than having to have the "they call that an areola" discussion with a five year old.
     
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  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The problem is that now we have a mootness and political question problem. There's no longer a judicial mechanism to alter anything or make Trump whole. The dispute is effectively over. Impeachment is the only "sorta" remedy, and that's a political question that the judiciary lacks jurisdiction to examine.
     
  21. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Quite possibly true but I think Trump will fight. However, I would be happy just to dismantle the election fraud scheme the democrat party has created so this won't happen again.
     
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  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    If there is such a scheme, I do want it dismantled.
     
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  23. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Please summarize said scheme.
     
  24. AC

    AC 2,500+ Posts

    If devolution is justified by the evidence. Trump gets reinstated. See the decleration of independence. As I understand it, The evidence must prove foreign interference (China, Italy, The Vatican). It must prove election interference. I know there is evidence of crimes against humanity. Foreign interference was these countries mentioned, colluding with our Gov to use algorithms and the 2010 census, to match votes to the algorithms. Millions of stolen votes, at least 8 million. If foreign interference is proven. Devolution means a Military take over of our Government. Just wait for the evidence. It’s coming! IDK when, but it’s coming. Hopefully very soon!
     
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  25. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    To be honest as time goes on I'm getting less and less impressed with the Pillow guy.
     
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  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Have you slept on his pillows?
     
  27. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I can't say I have. That good?
     
  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    They are good. Much better than the pillows my folks used to have in their guest room. Lol. Like I said, err on the side of firmness.
     
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  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And FWIW, I think Lindell is a very sharp businessman. He's in a business with a lot of competition. It's undoubtedly hard to distinguish oneself from competitors. I'm sure he is losing a lot of potential customers by getting overtly political, but he's building a group of customers who will never buy any other pillow.

    It reminds me of David Komie - that dreadlocked Austin personal injury lawyer who looks like a freak. I once asked his former associate how a guy who looks like he does could actually get clients and make money. He told me Komie makes a killing, because though 95 percent of the city would never hire him, the other 5 percent would never hire anybody else. Lindell is doing the same thing with pillows but will get far more than 5 percent.
     
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  30. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    You're begging for it!
     
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