Forensic Audit in Maricopa County, AZ

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  1. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    mchammer, that's damning. Need police at each of those things to arrest anyone trying it.
     
  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    It only takes 10-20 votes in 1000 precincts across the state to change the election in GA, WI, and AZ. In reality it was probably 100-200 harvested ballots in 100 Dem precincts in each state. Or 1000-2000 ballots in the top 10 Dem precincts in the state.
     
  3. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Or, you had a vile candidate. If they hacked Wisconsin wouldn’t they hack the senate as well? What you had was swing voters who voted for a gop senator and Biden.
     
  4. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    What the actual living duck are you talking about? There was no 2020 senate race in WI.

    2020 United States Senate elections - Wikipedia
     
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  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

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  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Not practical in every precinct. They need to just not have those things.
     
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  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

  8. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    And?
     
  9. guy4321

    guy4321 250+ Posts

    Because their candidate won the presidency.
     
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  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And nothing. I think the article is pretty much right on all points.
     
  11. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Well, we did have an ex-Wisconsin SCOTUS who investigated Wisconsin and said the Zuckerbucks had a dire influence on the election there. If private donors are getting access to things such as voter rolls I don't know how anybody can say with confidence that there was no fraud.
     
  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You can think private donors shouldn't be involved in elections and still think there needs to be solid proof of fraud before saying the election was stolen.
     
  13. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    "Solid proof" is in the eye of the beholder. You want courts to say it but sometimes common sense tells you these things. I don't need a court to tell me that the media is biased because I see it with my own eyes. Likewise, I know 100,000 vote clusters that we saw during election day that go 90%+ in one direction is ********.
     
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  14. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    You can say f**k instead of duck. You are correct that I was wrong. I was seeing Ron Johnson say this: yet still promoting The Big Lie. Ron Johnson Gets Caught Debunking the Big Lie It's almost like he says one thing for cameras and another thing when he thinks a camera isn't on. To use a Cosmo Kramer term: He's a two face.

    I was commenting on the general fact that there is a Trump tax that a certain percentage of Republic voters will vote for a GOP Congress and not for Trump. I think that number is about 3%. I'll try to find it.
     
  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Reasonable people can assume there was 100% certitude that fraud occurred. The debate is the scale.
     
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  16. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Behind Biden’s 2020 Victory
    This really says all that you need to know: [​IMG]
    Only one Biden related number is smaller in 2020 than it was in 2016. 2% of conservative Rep/lean Rep is less than 3%. Every other number for Biden is larger in 2020 when compared with HRC in 2016. 5% more Dem/lean Dem, 10% more Independent/other, 8% more moderate/liberal Rep, 6% more moderate/conservative Dem and 4% more Liberal Dem/Lean Dem.

    HRC was almost universally disliked except by pure partisans. It seems Trump is that way as well.

    In Changing U.S. Electorate, Race and Education Remain Stark Dividing Lines

    About 1/3 of registered voters identify as Independent. 10% of that group is significant.
     
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  17. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Ok, redone math. 34% of 168,308,000 million registered voters is 57,224,720. 10% of that is 5,722,472. The difference in the election was 7,052,770.
     
  18. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I keep getting shown that there was voter fraud. These are not the droids that you are looking for...
     
  19. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    And there is a Dem tax too. And there is the ballot harvesting that heavily went to one side.
     
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  20. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    You didn’t address that Trump picked up minorities who typically vote Dem and the 40,000 harvested ballots in 3 states that made the difference in the election.
     
  21. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Those figures compose all races and are actual voters.
     
  22. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    How many of those votes were harvested in the places that mattered?
     
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  23. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    They used validated voters. “Validated voters are citizens who told us in a post-election survey that they voted in the 2020 general election andhave a record for voting in a commercial voter file. Nonvoters are citizens who were not found to have a record of voting in any of the voter files or told us they did not vote.”

    if I were a South Pole liberal I might post: “if you would actually read the article you wouldn’t have to ask these basic questions. Also, if you would have read the link on post 1,324 of this thread it would be plainly clear that *checks notes* the election was obviously stolen.”

    I’m not. Those factors should be baked into that retrospective study. Trump was not a favorable candidate to most people.
     
  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    So the study excluded harvested ballots.
     
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  25. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Alrighty Senator Cruz. Have a good night.

    I thought you had me on ignore?
     
  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    It’s highly selective.
     
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  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    What we need is a study on the harvested ballots. Who is doing that? And if someone tells me that it is not possible, why isn’t it?
     
  28. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Maybe you should define harvested. Are they absentee ballots dropped off by someone other than the voter?
     
  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    These are mail-in or absentee ballots that are collected and filled in by paid “ballot harvesters”. They are either done without the consent of the voter or the voter is so out of reality they don’t know who they are voting for.
     
  30. Homebrewer

    Homebrewer 25+ Posts

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