General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    LOL Sure thing.

    "Stein told the Free Beacon that she wouldn’t personally pocket the money and instead use it to create a new voter integrity group."

    So are we to assume she won't lead or have a big part in this newly developed "group". I highly doubt that.

    It stands to reason she will be well compensated for her position within the group. So how would that not be a pass through of at least some of these donated funds to Stein?

    Sound familiar? It is/was her silent accomplice's preferred way of illegally profiting through donations to the Clinton Foundation. Donate to us, we'll invest in ABC, and ABC will compensate you. Wake up, Libs. :rolleyes1:
  2. nashhorn

    nashhorn 1,000+ Posts

    Oh brother,,,, of course she's going to profit. It's the nature of their game. Color my cynical for sure but I am certain that she will have plenty of 'I'll gotten gains', perhaps only as Brad mentions but she'll get it. To be fair I say the same of either party, R or D. Even my last bastion of fiscal integrity, Ron Paul, had some disparaging link referenced (on this forum I think) which really was like a final blow to any remaining optimism.
  3. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    You guys are likely right that Stein will stay involved in the voter-integrity effort, and that she will probably draw a salary. But assuming the salary is reasonable, how is it corrupt? Is every charity that pays its director corrupt?

    And by the way, what would you want Stein to do with the extra money? Burn it? I get the feeling you guys wouldn't be happy unless she donated the money to the Tea Party.
  4. nashhorn

    nashhorn 1,000+ Posts

    That's it, the "extra" money is always a question. And there no good answer as to what to do with it. I wish there was a way to give it back or just put into some 'pay against the debt' fund. And before you say it, yes, I do realize exactly how naive that sounds - nay - it is. But I am so sick of the greedy b****** s I want to see something, anything, that brings some hope.
  5. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    I don't know anything about anything about Jill Stein but by all appearances she doesn't appear to be in politics for the money. Here is Forbes' review of her 2015 tax return. Without much research, she comes across as an ideological tree hugger.

    If she was down for the money one would have expected her to jump into the Democratic party rather than Green Party. Much more money in the former.
  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    You were told in here, concurrent with events, that this stunt was nothing but a cash grab
  7. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    I agreed, a cash grab for the Green Party. Stein herself stated as much when she said that all monies raised that didn't go to the recount would be put towards "preparing the next Generation of Green Party candidates. These articles are written as if she is personally profiting from them. No evidence has shown of that.
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  9. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Just think, if Hillary had won, her equivalent of Obama's Valerie Jarrett would have been under a FBI criminal investigation, of course, Hillary should have been too, nice. Those whacky Dems.

    Now Hillary can go run NYC. They're used to corrupt politicians. They won't mind and she may be less crazy than the current NYC mayor.
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is NYC really going to vote her in as mayor?

    Last gasp for the Clinton's to keep payloa coming into the Foundation?
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    The letter states that they had information that the informal investigation had become a full criminal investigation but the "information could be incorrect". The letter they are seeking is from 2013. Do you think the investigation is still ongoing 3 years later? Could it be a coincidence that the Republican controlled Judiciary Committee was asking for this information in 2015? Think they might find this information useful during the general campaign?

    With all that you've jumped to the conclusion Huma Abedin is currently under investigation.

    I'm no Huma supporter and think there should have been an investigation if she was concurrently working for the State Dept. and Clinton Foundation.
  13. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 5,000+ Posts

    Nothing concerns me about Trump more than the "Putinphilia."
  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    It's the ONE thing he's been most consistent on throughout his campaign/transition.
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Pretty low hurdle -- I think Congress is also below Viagra commercials, time share salespeople and bed bugs
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    And, thus, Kendall, a private citizen, has been in custody of classified information

  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is this just another Comey strategically-timed docu-dump?
    Or, is the FBI sending a message to the incoming new admin a message that this is not over?

    Sessions will get some questions about this stuff, but I dont know how specific

    This one is about the “Missing” Clinton Seagate Hard Drive
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    A break for the Clintons

    Sessions said he would recuse himself from any investigation of Clinton Foundation / Clinton emails

    This is what Lynch should have done, but did not.
  20. mb227

    mb227 1,000+ Posts

    You left out tow truck drivers...
  21. Musburger1

    Musburger1 1,000+ Posts

    Putin: "If only I could hack your elections, I could have saved you from eight years of Obama."

    Note: This is just a joke.
  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    News from today's "Russia hacking" hearings and other leaks:
    - The Russians hacked the RNC too, albeit older no longer in use domains per Comey.
    - The Russians have "compromising" personal and financial information about Trump too but have yet to release it. The primary source is a former Mi6 agent in Moscow.
    - There was also allegations of a continuing dialogue during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government. This was relayed to both Obama and Trump in their briefings.

    Trump better make nice with the intelligence community or they may single-handedly take him down.
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2017
  23. mchammer

    mchammer 2,500+ Posts

    Or do as Reagan and fire the air traffic controllers. Fire a few for leaking and these passive aggressive federal workers will go submissive.
  24. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Buzzfeed has posted the documents that McCain handed over to Comey.

    Last edited: Jan 10, 2017
  25. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    That works to shakedown unions. Not sure that's applicable to CIA/FBI.

    Lot's of witty Tweeter's tonight...#GoldenShowers #2 on Twitter trends right now.

    The highlighted section from the documents is too salacious to be true but it makes for great comic material.
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2017
  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 5,000+ Posts

    I'll give Obama credit for something. In the 8 years he was President, I never heard his name and the term "golden shower" uttered in the same sentence.
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  27. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    The bully doesn't like being bullied? Anyone surprised? Of course this is after he's repeatedly questioned their credibility, sources, and stated he had more information than they did. Wait...maybe he does if there is any credibility to these memos.

    Last edited: Jan 11, 2017
  28. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    If anybody is immune to this, it would be Trump. It's pretty much accepted in the public domain that Trump is a bully, a sexual harasser, a man who would cheerfully screw people out of their life savings and all they could borrow through Trump University, a man who mocks the disabled. A man unfaithful to 3 spouses. So to all of l this new stuff: So what?
  29. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 5,000+ Posts

    Could Americans accept collusion with the Russians? His supporters certainly could because to them the only option to not support Trump is to side with HRC. So, if he was colluding with the Russians "all's good" because "HRC..."
  30. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 5,000+ Posts

    You're right, and it's really sad. Frankly, there's no shame in saying you voted for Trump because of HRC but that you're bothered by any collusion with Russians.
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