heckuva speech, Trumpy

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by huisache, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    No, they are assertions which have not been afforded an opportunity to withstand the scrutiny of a cross-examination of the witness.
     
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  2. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    This is why I also oppose trotting out DJT again...he is certainly more cognitively aware, but President WhoKnowsWhereHeIs has all but ensured this nation never again elects anyone who is going to turn 75 while in office.

    The Republican party needs to find someone who endorses Trumpian policies which we know WORK (a foreign concept to the left), lacks the element of divisiveness the left ascribes to DJT, and then allow DJT to just continue drawing bodies to the rallies to keep the support and turn out the vote.
     
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  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I think DeSantis fits that slot. He has shown cajones.
    I would vote for Trump again . He had us in a good place.
    But the Demx and media have made sure he is smeared every day.
    I hope he gets behind DeSantis
     
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  4. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    There is VIDEO of one of the claims.
    Trump demonstrably did nothing for 187 minutes. That is not in dispute. What he did was not log any of the calls he made because they were to lobby people like Tuberville to overturn the election or to Meadows to tell them that "well Mark, they seem more upset than you do".
     
  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  6. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

  7. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Very interesting proposal by Trump today for the homeless issue:

    Get them off the city streets now. Open up large parcels of land on the edges of the cities. Quickly build permanent bathrooms and facilities, put up thousands of good tents. Staff the facilities with doctors, nurses, psychologists, and addiction specialists. Goal—get them back on their feet and back into society once rehabbed and with jobs, etc.

    No Allsups bathrooms in Trumps tent cities.
     
  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I don't see anything in Trump's proposal about what to do if the homeless refuse the help if it means giving up drugs/alcohol.
    Even here in Dallas these services exist and are constantly offered and rejected by many if not most.
     
  9. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Then they can waste away in the tent city.
     
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  10. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    It is often mental health going untreated.
     
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  11. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    As many of us have stated.
    So, do you force them to get treatment if they refuse?
     
  12. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    Yea, haven't courts stated government agencies can't force people to move into a certain place (other than jail for a crime)? Police can remove homeless people out of a spot but not into a spot.
     
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  13. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    In that case, all tent cities should be located in Oklahoma because, similar populations...
     
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  14. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Please link to the mental health commentary in this thread. Thanks in advance.

    I don't know. Many in mental distress don't think they need treatment/services. Trump's idea is not horrible.
     
  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, you put the tent city in the middle of nowhere, which means it will take months for them to wander back to downtown. They are sent there for legitimate reasons: to be processed for breaking the law, for wellness check , etc.
     
  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    But mc
    You can NOT force them to move to a tent city

    Bubba
    What mental health commentary? Does it address this issue;
    You can't Force homeless people with mental health issues to accept help.
    The social workers I have been with who tried to get homeless to accept help were some of the kindest caring non judgmental persuasive people I have seen.
    When an obviously mentally ill homeless person refuses they can't be forced. They can be forced to vacate a certain locale , that is all
     
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  17. Hideo Gump Jr.

    Hideo Gump Jr. Summer Soldier and Sunshine Patriot

    upload_2022-7-27_14-16-21.jpeg
    This was tried ~80 years ago.
    And before anyone gets their underoos in a twist, there are some similarities between the two issues.
    Along with numerous differences.
     
  18. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    That sounds like what Trump is saying. Hanging around and camping out near downtown will not be allowed.
     
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    Chop 10,000+ Posts

  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Trump is not wrong. What we have now (OFFERING the homeless help including medical and rehab) is Not working.
    He doesn't say it but he implies making them move to these tent encampments.
    Anyone think this can actually happen?
     
  21. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts


    PROBLEM!!!!!

    most of them don't want to get back on their feet. My wife and I have adopted a few of them and no amount of wishful thinking is going to get them rehabilitated.
    They are about equally divided between drug goners and mentally ill people who have been treated but wont stay on their meds (they don't like how they make them feel). An occasional arrest for thievery gets them some time in jail where they get fed or some drug rehab and then its back to the streets. Their families may be able to help a few (VERY FEW) but otherwise the do gooders are just staring in space and hoping something good will happen instead of looking at what is right in front of them.

    Trump is an idiot in case you haven't noticed yet and are still just staring in space and hoping something good will happen.
     
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  22. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Plenty of good things happened during Trump's admin.
     
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  23. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Plenty of good things happened in Clinton’s administration but he wasn’t responsible for many of them. Trump is a tv star and a pied piper charlatan and Biden couldn’t have beaten anybody else just like Trump couldn’t have beaten anybody but the lady on the broom
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Insurrection!!!!

     
  25. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    This may be the answer. Send homeless folks to the middle of nowhere (which is where the camp is) for a check or processing of a crime. Then have them work their way back to downtown. However, my understanding is a surprisingly large chuck of homeless folks have cars so all they have to do is phone a friend to get a ride back. But will their friends want to drive, say 12 hours round trip Austin to Monahans, TX to get them?
     
  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Guy
    Force homeless to a tent city??
    Wish it could but it will NEVER happen
     
  27. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Why you got to bring Monahans into this? They have enough transient oil field workers causing problems.
     
  28. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    It is a force as it's for processing or a welfare check. However, I can understand the concern. The folks in charge might send everyone they dislike there for a wellness check.

    Just picking a place that's not next door to Austin. Feel free to change the name to any other place. Too close to comfort from the name, huh?
     
  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Are you actually from Monahans?
     
  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah. I choose Pecos.
     
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