Hillary is not out of the woods yet

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    There’s no evidence that a Rothschild died. You (or your source) are just making that up.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I posted a quote, with the citation, that read "...Feared Dead..." There was a crash, people died. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...h-fatalities-feared-afteraircraft-helicopter/

    Why is this such a big deal to you? It is sort of weird you would pick out this one post to reply to when ignoring all the others.

    For example, there was quite a bit for your to take issue with on the Clinton Foundation just before that post. Once upon a time, not that long ago, you would lecture us in the same dismissive style you employ here, that the Clinton Foundation was legit. IIRC, you would speculate that people who questioned the CF were defective. But looks like you gave that up and now attack posters over one-liners about the possible death of a Rothchild. What happened? Was your horsey to high?
     
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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    When McCullough first brought the Clinton email debacle to Clapper, his first words were considerations about how it would impact the Clinton campaign.
    Tells you all you need to know.

     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Because of Judicial Watch's dogged pursuit of FOIA requests and federal lawsuits, the FBI was just forced to release an additional trove of FBI docs on the infamous Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting.

    Do the docs reveal anything about the FBI's investigation of that secret meeting? No
    Why not? Because they didnt do one
    Well, what were they doing? the FBI devoted all its resources to catch whoever leaked the fact of the meeting
    Anything else? Yes, the FBI lied in initial FOIA responses that they had any docs at all on this topic

    -- “we need to find that guy”
    -- “in an attempt to stem any further damage.”
    -- An FBI official working on Lynch’s security detail even goes so far as to suggest non-disclosure agreements to keep the full facts from coming forth.

    The FBI is part of the Swamp and needs to be cleaned out too

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/03/new-documents-reveal-fbis-clinton-cover-up.html
     
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  5. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    Congressmen officially calling for investigation into FBI’s ‘special treatment’ of Clinton

    GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida will call Wednesday morning for an investigation into the FBI’s alleged “special” treatment of its investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s handling of her private email servers.

    Gaetz will make his announcement Wednesday alongside many members of the House Freedom Caucus, including Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio, Mark Meadows of North Carolina, Ron Desantis of Florida, Ted Yoho of Florida, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Jody Hice of Georgia, Andy Biggz of Arizona and Louie Gohmert of Texas.
     
  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Huma Abedin backed up copies of her emails with Hillary Clinton to her pervert husband Anthony Weiner's laptop in direct conflict with her account to the FBI and in court that she did not preserve the conversations. Backup copies of many of Abedin's work-related messages with Clinton were created in the dates after Clinton left the State Department in early 2013. These emails, which were just released for the first time, show that they had been put on Weiner's laptop by a BlackBerry archiving program.

    This seems an obvious felony

    She also told the FBI that she did not have a method of preserving the emails she exchanged on a private server with her boss. Also untrue.

    And she also claimed to have lost most of them as a result of the transition from the State Department - which she left on January 20, 2013. Also untrue.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...din-backed-emails-Anthony-Weiners-laptop.html
     
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  7. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Did she purposely copy the email there? On more than one occasion my Blackberry duplicated my email on my desktop. Huma Abedin doesn't come across as the most technologically savvy person.

    The email was copied. Doesn't intent rear it's head again? Did she intend to use the Blackberry archiving program to copy the email to Weiner's laptop? The FBI already stated that these were copies of email they had previously seen. So, no new email? Wouldn't that be evidence that there was no intent? Maybe that Huma accidentally synced the email to that PC?
     
  8. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    You are missing the fact that Huma Abedin worked with and for Hillary Clinton. This simple fact eliminates the need to prove intent, or illegal conduct, or anything of the sort. She's guilty by association, so LOCK HER UP!!!!
     
  9. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    The “I’m a flaming dumbass” defense is to be expected when it comes to Democrats. Too bad it won’t work.
     
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  10. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Intent is irrelevant to law that is being discussed. Comey brought it up as a way to excuse the behavior, but it had nothing to do with the law itself. That is why the issue is "gross negligence", not "purposeful error".
     
  11. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    My sentiments exactly! ;)
     
  12. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    Some crimes require proof of intent. This one does not -- but it does require proof of criminal negligence. Case law defines that phrase very narrowly, so an explainable mistake would not be enough to convict her on. I forget the exact phrase, but it requires you to proceed with blind indifference to your conduct.
     
  13. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    So what's a reasonable explanation for having your own server for your job where you work for the federal government? Without asking permission, without an examination of the legality, without any precedent, Clinton set up a private server for herself. Her explanation that it was easier for her to set up her own server is ridiculous and not reasonable. Her explanation that it allowed her to use the only personal device she understood has been proven false. What possible reasonable explanation is there for setting up a server?
     
  14. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    We were discussing Huma Abedin’s case. The publicly known facts are sketchy, so it would be silly to speculate about whether she might have legal problems. Anyone who has concluded that she’s in hot water, or that she isn’t, is a partisan hack.

    Hillary Clinton’s situation has been aired more thoroughly to the public, and based on what we know it certainly seems that she’d have troubles if they prosecuted her. Of course, the investigators and the defense team know way more about the case than any of us, so our speculation is inherently, uhm, speculative. But at least there’s a basis for us to speculate, and it doesn’t look good.
     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Of course, to date, the exact opposite has been true. None of Hillary's close associates have been locked up, due to their association with Hillary. While the facts that exist on this (as opposed to the emotions and feelings) might not quite qualify for 'innocent by association' they do fall squarely into the category of 'look the other way by association.'

    Here is just one example, when the FBI was looking into the matter of Hillary's off-site private server and the way they handled classified documents, neither Hillary, Huma nor Cheryl Mills were ever put under oath for their interviews. How do you account for that? Especially when compared to what happened to people like Scooter Libby and Michael Flynn. Different people in similar situations were treated differently solely due to the 'discretion' of the investigators. In this light, wouldnt your bolded, exclamated one liner be closer to reality as "EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW!" Why do you oppose equal treatment under the law?
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  17. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Wow. If that's her reason for staying with the Weiner, then for his part he should be demanding whatever kind of perverted sex he wants from her, any time he wants it.
     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    No doubt he will be demanding something
    Maybe she has a 14 year old cousin?

    Sounds like they want an out of court settlement. You have to wonder if there will be some attempt to negotiate this. Nothing can be excluded when it comes to Clintonfolk
     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The FBI has expanded its Hillary Clinton Email Investigation after some more hidden confidential messages were discovered

    The Hillary Clinton email fiasco isn’t ending anytime soon, with State Department officials saying they have no idea when they will finish sorting though and releasing the previously hidden messages.

    More classified documents that the former secretary of state improperly handled keep coming to light.

    The Trump administration doesn’t even know if it has hunted down every trace of the emails that Mrs. Clinton — a former first lady, U.S. senator, top diplomat and Democratic presidential nominee — sent from a secret email server stashed in her home.

    “At this time, we do not have an estimate for completion of processing all of these documents,” a State Department official told The Washington Times.

    In February 2016, the State Department completed a review of the roughly 30,000 emails that Mrs. Clinton turned over in December 2014, nearly two years after she left office.

    The FBI last summer gave the State Department tens of thousands of additional emails from its investigation, which the department continues to process pursuant to court orders.

    This June, the FBI provided approximately 7,000 additional documents recovered from the laptop computer shared by top Clinton aide Huma Abedin and her husband, Anthony Weiner, whose habitual sexting cost him a seat in Congress, the mayoral election in New York and ultimately his marriage to Ms. Abedin.

    Back on August 8, 2017 Judicial Watch was in DC District Court (Judge Mehta) again and was able to get an order “to search the state.gov e-mail accounts of Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Jacob Sullivan” for emails relating to the Benghazi scandal.

    The full truth will eventually come out. But will it be while Hillary is still alive? Who knows.

    This is a major victory. The truth will prevail.


    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/13/hillary-clinton-email-case-expands-as-fbi-finds-mo/
     
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  20. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

  21. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Can you make someone stand trial posthumously?
     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Heh. Put her remains in the pokey? (I am OK with this for the record)
    Civil cases will continue, if there is an estate to pursue. Otherwise, what is the point?
     
  23. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Since the election is over my favorite defense of Hillary and Huma (What about all the shady stuff Trump/Trump associates have said/done and will no doubt accelerate when he becomes President?) is no longer relevant. Hillary and company exhibited tremendous arrogance and carelessness. Keeping National Secrets is a sacred duty.
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    There was a new FOIA dump (overshadowed by the Memo) --

    People who had read through the material say that it looks like Hillary may have been receiving classified briefings and even the Presidential Daily Brief (which is highly classified) on her unsecured server.
     
  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I have written about this "charity" in the past but a search did not yield any results




     
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  28. Joe Fan

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  29. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Huh? When did Weiner and Huma join the board?
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    In case you have ever wondered how Anthony Weiner spent his Christmases

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