'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

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  1. bystander

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  2. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Steve Koonin is physicist who worked for Obama who has written a book explaining why there is no climate crisis. He looked at the data, the physics if you will and came up with some very sound conclusions.
     
  3. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    I'm banging the drum all day. The money is astronomical as will be the power. These people are truly that depraved. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE OTHER MAN'S GREED.

    We are constantly wanting to believe in the good in people's hearts. But when you study history and see how much horror there has been then you can believe that his "crisis" is the final solution. The world is closer than ever. The ability to control us is closer than ever. We are being censored online by the biggest social media platforms around. We are being attacked all over the internet if we don't say EXACTLY what they want to hear.

    Biden is four months in and his agenda is incredibly destructive to our freedom that when you think of the Russian Collusion gambit and the Kavanaugh debacle it makes you so sick that they can ram something so large down our throats when they tried to use something so slight to get their way.
     
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  4. nashhorn

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    It’s almost as though they need to cram as much in as they can, as quickly as they can because he won’t be here very long,,,,hmmmmm.
     
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  5. bystander

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    They have to lock it in because the mid-terms will be the pendulum swinging back again.
     
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  6. AC

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    I think Biden doesn’t make it to Christmas as Pres. AZ and Mi will be overturned by the audits. Then the dam will break. There are ten states wanting forensic audits so far, more to come. Rest assured, this coup won’t last long!
     
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  7. OUBubba

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    I want to make a formal request for a heart icon.
     
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  8. Monahorns

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    If you love nature flush solar and wind energy down the toilet. We will have to chop all the forests down to stay warm in the winters without oil, gas, coal, and nuclear.
     
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  9. Monahorns

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    Also, watch this video from ex-KGB. If nothing else watch the last 30 minutes. He describes the stages for a Leftist take over in the US. He claimed we had completed stage 1 by 1984. I think we have seen stage 2 destabilization occur over the last 5 years. Now the D Party is claiming a Climate Crisis. Crisis is stage 3 when the socialists takeover. Get ready to call out truth and fight. This is where the fight for America will happen. Climate is the scapegoat for a centrally planned economy to bring climate "justice".

     
  10. mchammer

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  11. Monahorns

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    Koonin could be very persuasive, but they will try to cancel him too.

    I have enjoyed each time I have read a physicist comment on climate.
     
  12. bystander

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  13. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Well there you go. Biden shuts down the oil, and the pipeline so now attention must be shifted to gas, what has always heretofore been touted as ‘clean’. Predictable.
     
  14. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    This is ridiculous. Half life of methane in atmosphere is 7-10 years. It degrades to CO2. It also has significant overlap with water in terms of infrared absorption. At least CO2 has infrared absorption regions different than water.
     
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  15. mchammer

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  16. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    My point is the timing. They are carpet bombing us with scare tactics. They want us to pay big bucks and defer our sovereignty to the UN in this matter.
     
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  17. Monahorns

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    The important thing to remember is that there is no crisis and any claim of the opposite is to grab power. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Read from guys like Steve Koonin and Ross McKittrick.
     
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  18. mchammer

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  19. nashhorn

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    Wow mc, interesting article. My old ‘scientist’ background made me read through the whole thing. Not the least bit unusual for a group of scientists to challenge another but appalling to suspect ‘doctoring’ the data.
    I remember in college lab almost blowing up chem lab and faking the results to keep from getting an ‘F’. Small example but similar in analogy. I was praying the lab director would not tell the prof. Yea, yea, small stakes but big to me cause was my 2nd time thru organic.
     
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  20. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Much of climate related policy is built on half truths and even massive exaggerations of the actual data. That and reliance on models which can be built to say anything you want them to. The models really have been a black hole of deception in this subject.
     
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  21. mchammer

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  22. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Funny how life patterns unfold. I just watched a movie "Ice" I think its called (I do n to recommend it I seem to have an affinity for low grade movies) that imo was poking fun and Climate Change. It's premise was a storm on the sun was causing such disruption to our weather we were having an extremely low temperature storm, ie, everything north of the equator was going to freeze.
    Then mc posts the above - ironic I think.
     
  23. mchammer

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    What the frick? Koonin was the highest non-political scientist in the Obama administration:

     
  24. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Yes. Listened to several interviews of his. He said he went along with the global warming orthodoxy when in the Obama administration. He help do calculations and other analysis to determine what kind of policy could be used to reduce CO2 emissions.

    Then, later, he actually started asking questions about the science and found that the science doesn't justify any kind of policy to reduce CO2. He just took it as given before. Just simple questioning, looking at model assumptions, etc led him to quickly reject the climate crisis narrative.

    That's all it takes. Asking common sense questions and trying to understand the science if you want to create a climate skeptic. It also helps to have an economic mindset where you weigh trade offs. Thinking through trade offs and comparing different scenarios squelches any motivation to "combat climate change".
     
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  25. mchammer

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    Hawaii is blaming climate change for some shoreline loss near a 100 ft bridge that is literally 30 ft from the ocean. It was 40 ft from the ocean. Apparently the preferred solution is to remake our economy costing trillions of dollars instead of (possibly) building a new bridge.
     
  26. humahuma

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    Erosion? What do I know I am a geologist.
     
  27. mchammer

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  28. nashhorn

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    Hahaha, don’t worry we’ll be hearing how CO2, or another earth malady causes the magnetic sun shifts.
     
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  29. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    ENSO - El Niño Southern Oscillation
     
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