Impeachment

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  1. OUBubba

    OUBubba 1,000+ Posts

    It's true: Donald Trump once supported impeaching George W. Bush

    Since there is a tweet for everything, there's probably one for this as well. But this is funny.

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    Based on the CNN transcript from Oct. 15, 2008, Our Principles was faithful to the video. In fact, when host Wolf Blitzer pressed Trump, the real estate tycoon doubled down.

    Here is the exchange:

    Trump: "I was surprised that she didn't do more in terms of Bush and going after Bush. It was almost -- it just seemed like she was going to really look to impeach Bush and get him out of office, which, personally, I think would have been a wonderful thing."

    Blitzer: "Impeaching him?"

    Trump: "Absolutely, for the war, for the war."

    Blitzer: "Because of the conduct of the war."

    Trump: "Well, he lied. He got us into the war with lies. And, I mean, look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant. And they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And, yet, Bush got us into this horrible war with lies, by lying, by saying they had weapons of mass destruction, by saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true."
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    My friend who works for the FBI said the same thing to me (even in private). He worked directly with Comey and previously Mueller. He said both were very honorable and decent men and exceptional to work for. After the IG report he had to acknowledge that Comey obviously screwed up. He wasn't involved in investigations, so he didn't have direct knowledge of things, but he was surprised at Comey. He said it seemed very out of character for him.

    What I suspect is that these guys are very competent bureaucrats who work very well with others. As a result, people who know them give them the benefit of the doubt. I still do with Mueller, but the handling of the email non-indictment was enough for Comey to lose my confidence.
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    To be fair, if Bush had actually intentionally had intelligence falsified and lied to get us into a war, I'd want him impeached too.
     
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  4. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    was that before or after they got TDS?
     
  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I think the founders thought it should be political but with some guidance. The power of impeachment was solely given to the House, which was the most political part of the most political branch of government. They provided some guidance (bribery, treason, and "high crimes and misdemeanors"), but the latter basis is pretty imprecise and leaves a lot of wiggle room.

    I do think they intended for decorum and procedure to be orderly. I think that's why they required the Chief Justice to preside. However, they left all substantive decision-making power with the House (and Senate for the actual trial) and granted the President no legal remedy if he thinks he was impeached improperly.
     
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  6. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    TDS is a terrible disease.
     
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  7. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    The job numbers plus a failed impeachment (in House or Senate) may break the Dems before the election. Will have no momo in 2020. You can sense this on Twitter and on this board.
     
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  8. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    The fact that Democrats are more angry at Donald Trump for looking into Joe Biden’s corruption than they are at Joe Biden’s corruption, tells you everything you need to know.
     
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  9. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    He did. You wouldn’t.
     
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  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    That's because he didn't.
     
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  11. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Don't worry, I'm sure the evidence of what Bush intentionally did is forthcoming.
     
  12. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Tell me about the unintentional.
     
  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    He'll interpret things how he wants. Kinda pointless in haggling over it. And of course, none of this has any bearing on the merits of the war.
     
  14. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Riiiiight.
     
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  15. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    That was proven when you showed LH that Trump made it clear that he wasn't talking about Neo-Nazis on the Charlottesville march (good people on both sides). Transcript and video proof couldn't convince him that he was wrong. :lmao:
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    You guys giving up on Ukraine?

    The WAPO, which has been one of the primary media drivers of the entire Impeachgate Movement, is trying to pivot back to Russia

     
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    Last edited: Dec 6, 2019
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is the Cipollone letter to Nadler

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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The list of requested witnesses by Rs

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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The White House has petitioned the SCOTUS on Dem subpoenas to Deutsche Bank and Capital One seeking his financial documents

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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Go figure
    "$5 Billion here, $5B there, pretty soon you are talking about some real money"


     
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    Last edited: Dec 7, 2019
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


     
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  22. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Help me
    Did it explain Why RBG agreed to stay?
     
  23. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Not sure, the justices tend to see issues on a long term basis unlike dem politicians who put their foot in their mouth like Harry Reid, etc.
     
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  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    When a stay like that is issued, it doesn't have to be explained, because it's temporary. It's basically her way of saying that the full court should get to look at the matter. It doesn't necessarily mean that she'll ultimately rule with Trump. However, she has some personal privacy and libertarian leanings on this sort of thing, so she may. It's hard to say at this point.
     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Brand new impeachment grounds found

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    "Yuge"
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    Last edited: Dec 7, 2019
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Madness

    Every wonder how it is that the counties immediately surrounding Washington DC are always among the top 8 counties in the US in income-per-capita? This is part of the how, and they dont want taxpayers spending much time asking questions about it. The US is the piggy bank for the world's unelected bureaucrats like the ones called by Schiff as "fact" witnesses

    Trump has upset their apple cart and they dont like it

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  27. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I’ve mentioned this in the past on here and the Libs on this board completely ignores it. The fighting shouldn’t be happening between the American citizens. Divide and conquer is their strategy and their followers fall for it no matter how rich they are all getting in Washington DC and the surrounding counties. They defend that side no matter how many facts kick them in the nutz.
     
  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Fact check: TRUE

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    Last edited: Dec 7, 2019
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Another new ground for impeachment will be that Donald Trump was responsible for slavery

     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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