New York is having a rough time

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    Bubba, are you familiar with the activities Jane led on her trip to Hanoi? If not, you should do a little research. Take a look at the picture of Hanoi Jane sitting in the chair of the AAA gun vehicle.
    Protesting the war in Viet Nam was her right - that's exercising free speech. She went too far with the picture. We used to have a term that described giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war - it was called treason.
     
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  2. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I would punch that old hag in the face today if I could. I had two family members fighting over there, one of whom was shot in the mouth on hill 881. It took a year for him to recover and 46 years to get the bronze star because all the officers were killed. 75 of the 100 trying to take that stupid hill were either killed or wounded. Jane Fonda is a traitor of the first degree.
     
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  3. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 100+ Posts

    Want to hear my conspiracy theory on this.

    Each of these govenors did this on purpose to ramp up the fears of Covid and make Trumps actions against Covid look slow and weak. All the time they were saying all these deaths were on Trump yet the truth is it was on these 4 governers. I believe they purposely murdered these people just to blame it on Trump and make the virus look much worse than it was.

    That is how low democrats would stoop to get the presidency from the Republicans.
     
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  4. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    FNY.
     
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  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Yes. I’m just pointing out cancel culture is not new.
     
  6. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Cancel culture is related primarily to Facebook and Twitter. When the folks running those sites prevent someone from posting, or remove their data, they are "cancelled". If you stop printing a book, like Dr. Seuss's books, you have cancelled the information from appearing anywhere. If you remove vestiges of history from being seen, such as flags, statues, and names on buildings, those artifacts or remembrances are no longer able to be seen. They have been cancelled by disappearance. If someone doesn't like Jane Fonda, or Barry Switzer, or Nike, they can't cancel them, at least not legally. They can ignore them or not buy their products. Cancelling Jane Fonda would be done by hanging her in a public square, which I am all for, and burying her in a far away place such as her preferred homeland of North Vietnam. She would disappear.
     
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  7. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 100+ Posts

    I cancelled facebook twitter and instagram. I will never go on those sites again. I urge everyone to do the same.
     
  8. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    The number of women accusing Cuomo of sexual harassment or assault is now up to eight.

    It’s like an auction or something:

    5, 5 do I hear 5
    6, do I hear 6
    7 , 7, 7 to the woman in the back
    8, 8, do I hear 8, 8 to the lady in the front row
    9, 9 do I hear 9
     
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  9. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

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  10. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Who says we trust them? I do find it funny how all of these women come out of nowhere when a politician is in some sort of trouble or at election time.

    There's a reason why Pence won't be alone with a woman. He doesn't want this **** to happen to him.
     
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  11. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts

    I recall "Believe the victim."

    There was no presumption of innocence for Kavanaugh. It doesn't matter it the women accusing Cuomo are sketchy or not. The Kavanaugh hearing provided the Liberal template. An accusation is a verdict of guilt. We have a VP now who operates like that. There is no argument at all and I'm surprised you even try.
     
  12. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 100+ Posts

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  13. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    It's believe the victim when the perp is on the other team. Personally, I believe most all of these victims - Kavanaugh, Trump, and Cuomo.

    Look at what little Al Franken did to get washed out of the Senate. Maybe we should apply that standard to all of these.
     
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  14. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    it should be "believe the victim enough to take it seriously and investigate it". It should not be "believe the victim with zero corroborating evidence, facts, testimony"

    Some of these women will make claims that can't be substantiated. It doesn't mean they are lying but it does mean that we can't/shouldn't convict the accused...even in the court of public opinion. I know it sucks but that is reality. Sometimes bad people get away with bad things for lack of evidence.
     
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  15. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    If you believe the "victim" in the Kavanaugh instance, you are not very brigh....oh Bubba wrote that....
     
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  16. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I can agree to that approach with one caveat. At some point volume of accusations plays a role. That applies to Cuomo, Trump, Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein. The volume of claims against each leads me to believe where there is smoke there is definite fire. Biden/Kavanaugh situations need more investigation. Sadly, Tara Reid is a loon who has extreme credibility issues. Kavanaugh's accuser is a he said she said. I'm certain she believes her story but not enough evidence at this point to hold him accountable.

    Al Franken got screwed in this mess. There is no evidence he did anything other than try to be funny which comedians are expected to be dancing monkeys if you believe Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Jim Belushi etc. Consider him a friendly casualty of #MeToo.
     
  17. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Actually, none of that is true. He was accused by the woman of grabbing her butt and trying to kiss her during a USO tour, with her being a veteran no less.

    He lied about it all, said she was making it up, then the photo of him acting like he was grabbing her breasts, while she was sleeping, was found and published. Sort of cut into his credibility of not harassing her.

    This was during the time frame of the Alabama Senate race, where the Republican was being accused of being a perv, so Franken lost his Party Member in Good Standing status that would have allowed a cover up, and was flushed down the sewer like the turd he was.

    Made little difference the Party - they bumped up the LT Gov of Minn, so didn't lose the seat, and she was rubber stamped into a full term next election.
     
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    DD
    Thanks for reminding us Franken lied. Dems are conveniently forgetting that
     
  19. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 100+ Posts

    Thank heavens we didn't have social media when I was a kid. I'd never have a shot at being president. If those women ever come forward I'm totally screwed.
     
  20. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    A ninth woman has now come forward. Cuomo was visiting her flood damaged neighborhood. He took advantage of the situation and planted a big kiss on her. Someone took a picture of it...
     
  21. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    Too bad those 27 women accusing trump of similar stuff weren’t veterans. Maybe you guys would have cared about it then.
     
  22. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    I think it’s well known that Trump harassed some women. It’s also well known that he cheated on his wives, and he made sexist remarks on a fairly regular basis. Trump didn’t run as a choir boy. Everybody knew what they were getting character-wise. It’s sort of like having a Kennedy in the GOP.
     
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  23. Sheldon Cooper

    Sheldon Cooper 100+ Posts

    We all knew Trump did all those things, the thing is no one in the GOP cared. I'm not in the GOP and I didn't care. Trump had other qualities I did care about, where he tried to put his dinky isn't one of them.

    I'll be honest, I don't give two shits who Cuomo has tried to bed, I care that he is responsible for killing 25K people. That is the real issue, not the bimbo's he is flurting with.
     
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  24. mb227

    mb227 2,500+ Posts

    How many of those allegations were citing conduct that occurred while he was a sitting President?

    Once again, you try to go apples to oranges. The claims against #HandsyAndy are alleging conduct WHILE HE IS GOVERNOR! They aren't something being conjured up from years ago.
     
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  25. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    You show me a picture of Trump pretending to grab the breasts of a sleeping woman and yucking it up for the camera, and I'll drop my support. Till then, it's 27 or 85 or whatever the latest made up number is of New York leftists dingbats who claimed he was mean to them.

    With the entirety of the media-entertainment complex ready to believe them and broadcast their statements to the world, the fact that none of it all amounted to a hill of beans means that it was all garbage.
     
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  26. OUBubba

    OUBubba Reluctant and Bullied Sponsor

    I guess you missed him confessing to sexual battery on tape. Thankfully, Gucipher 2.0 (Russian GRU front) released the Podesta emails 45 minutes later.
     
  27. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    The Russians!:tap::lol:
     
  28. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Once again, Da Russians!!! They stole Barry's election, poor lad.

    No one knows who fooled Podesta into falling for that simplest of traps: "Hi, I'm from Google Security. Your account has been hacked, so please follow this link and enter in your password". Which was the word p@ssword. This was not a smart man.

    Trump never admitted to battery, he said broads at beauty contests would "let you grab them by the *****", which is like saying the IRS has you by the balls during an audit.

    No Barry, the IRS does not pull you pants down and grab your testicles, while going over various deductions. It's what's known to the rest of us as a figure of speech. Meaning gals at a beauty contest would sleep with judges or such to win. Which is news to about no one.
     
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  29. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Who among us hasn't grabbed a cooch or two?
     
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