Only one coach fired by a Power 5 school has won a conference title at another.

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  1. ronich

    ronich 100+ Posts

    Only one coach fired by a Power 5 school in history has won a conference title at another school.

    I always saw Charlie as our Rich Rodriguez (Michigan), but of better character. I know his heart and motivation were in the right place, it was just the Xs and Os that weren't.
    I hope he proves this list wrong and has huge success where ever he ends up! :hookem2:


    Years Record Pct.
    NATIONAL TITLE, CONFERENCE TITLE
    Gene Stallings

    Texas A&M 1965-71 27-45-1 .376
    Alabama 1990-96 70-16-1 .810
    1992 national championship, 1992 SEC championship
    DIVISION TITLE
    Rich Rodriguez

    Michigan 2008-10 15-22 405
    Arizona 2012-2016 36-29 .554
    2014 Pac-12 South title
    David Cutcliffe
    Ole Miss 1999-2004 44-29 .603
    Duke 2008-16 52-61 .460
    2013 ACC Coastal title
    Rick Neuheisel
    Washington 1999-2002 33-16 .673
    UCLA 2008-11 21-30 .412
    2011 Pac-12 South title
    Jackie Sherrill
    Texas A&M 1982-88 52-28-1 .648
    Miss. State 1991-2003 74-76-2 .493
    1998 SEC West title
    Danny Ford
    Clemson 1978-89 96-29-4 .760
    Arkansas 1993-97 25-31-1 .447
    1995 SEC West title
    WINNING RECORD
    Paul Hackett

    Pittsburgh 1989-92 13-20-1 .397
    USC 1998-2000 19-18 .514
    THE REST
    Descending order of winning percentage at second school:
    Pete Elliott
    Illinois 1960-66 31-34-1 .477
    Miami 1973-74 11-11 .500
    Will Muschamp
    Florida 2011-14 28-21 .571
    So. Carolina 2016 6-6 .500
    Dennis Green
    Northwestern 1981-85 10-45 .182
    Stanford 1989-91 16-18 .471
    Emory Bellard
    Texas A&M 1972-78 48-27 .640
    Miss. State 1979-85 37-42 .468
    Mike Leach
    Texas Tech 2000-09 84-43 .661
    Wash. State 2012-16 29-33 .468
    John Mackovic
    Texas 1992-97 41-28-2 .592
    Arizona 2001-03 10-18 .357
    Paul Pasqualoni
    Syracuse 1991-2004 107-59-1 .644
    UConn 2011-13 10-18 .357
    Fred Akers
    Texas 1977-86 86-31-2 .731
    Purdue 1987-90 12-31-1 .284
    Johnny Majors
    Tennessee 1977-92 116-62-8 .645
    Pittsburgh 1993-96 12-32 .273
    Woody Widenhofer
    Missouri 1985-88 12-31-1 .284
    Vanderbilt 1997-2001 15-40 .273
    Ty Willingham
    Notre Dame 2002-04 21-15 .583
    Washington 2005-08 11-37 .229
    Gerry DiNardo
    LSU 1995-99 32-24-1 .570
    Indiana 2002-04 8-27 .229

    Great Article:
    http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...nges-lsu-texas-oregon-show-direction-programs
     
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  2. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    So, what you're saying is if Strong winds up HC at, say, oh, I don't know ... Syracuse, and wins a national championship there, we're kind of like aggy, firing a winner?

    Stallings won an MNC at Bama, after being fired by aggy after going 27-45-1 in Disfunction Junction.

    Emory Bellard who under DKR's direction formulated UT's wishbone triple option followed Stallings as HC going 48-27 there before aggy fired him.

    P.S., Stallings, after being fired by aggy, coached at the Cowboys (DBs) for 14 years, then HC for the Cardinals, going 23-34-1. THEN Bama hired him as HC, prob cuz he played under Bear at aggy and Bear wanted him at Tuscaloosa.

    Was quite a gamble for Bama to hire him as HC. An anecdotal coach. SUCKED as HC at aggy and Cardinals, won an MNC at Bama.

    Better players?

    Frankly, whether Strong does or does not win a conference championship at a follow-on Power 5 conference would mean doodly squat **** WRT him being fired at UT for starting with 3 losing seasons.

    Herbie, is that you?
     
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  3. ronich

    ronich 100+ Posts

    What I am saying is statistically the odds are stacked against any coach involuntarily leaving a major program and being successful afterward...but I wish Charlie the best.
     
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  4. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Actually, no.

    It's those being fired.

    Right off the top of my head I can think of a number of coaches leaving Power 5 teams to win conference championships/national championships elsewhere.

    Saban, Miles, Jimmy Johnson, Mack Brown, Meyer, .....
     
  5. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    He wasn't implying anything.
    Just wishing Strong well.
    Get your panties out of a wad already.
    Strong did his best and it wasn't good enough.
    He's gone. Herman is in.
    I also wish Strong well.
    Hook'em.
     
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  6. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    Well that was interesting
     
  7. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Emory was not fired at A&M. He has a great record for an Aggie coach, but certain BMD weren't sure he could get them to the next level, so they began to put out feelers to see what they might be able to attract. Emory got wind of their actions and resigned, saying "I don't want to be where I'm not wanted". Many Ags begged him to reconsider, but he wouldn't talk about it.
     
  8. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah often the line between fired / resigned is a bit blurry.
     
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  9. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Aww, I'm hurt. Sniff.
     
  10. ronich

    ronich 100+ Posts

    Yes the title of the thread very clearly says - Only one coach fired by a Power 5 school has won a conference title at another.

    And I totally agree it is a blurry line between fired and forced to resign, but you are creating arguments where they don't exist.

    All the coaches on this list were verifiably terminated against their will save Emory Bellard. I would consider Emory the lone "exception" on the list. He led the Aggies to 4-2 in '78, following two straight loses several boosters started a search for a new head coach and were backed by the University. Bellard was told to "guarantee" a win out or find a new job...instead of playing the Aggies game of threats he quit.



    I only posted this to illustrate most coaches that are FIRED are fired for a reason. That said, I believe Coach Strong to be very good man and role model and wish him nothing but the best, and hopes he proves the exception to this list.
     
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  11. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    In addition to the above, as I said in another thread, Strong is 56 and his next job is likely his last. UT was probably his last shot at winning big.
     
  12. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    The interesting thing is I was just thinking the other of how coaches who fail at one job in college don't often succeed at another, but this isn't true in the NFL. Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll both sucked at their first coaching job.
     

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