Opting Out

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by stevedallas, Dec 12, 2020.

  1. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    The more I hear the less I trust.
    There's a reason some people dont like Tom and have it in for him....goes beyond W/Ls.....and it isn't just inside Travis Co.
    I'm giving him benefit of doubt as best I can....but starting to wonder more and more about character...not simply maturity.
    At the very least he appears disingenuous....and grossly overthinks and over maneuvers at times.
    In his defense, probably tempting to do so even more in current environment
  2. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    In the OU game good old mo is about as important as anything. Never give OU a chance to take significant mo. Why you go ahead and kick the FG on 4th and 1. Because the mo swing on a stop is huge. It's not a normal game. Herman has never understood that.
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  3. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    Herman has no doubt been a major disappointment. I was a huge supporter of the hire.
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  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Same here.
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  5. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Herman: Are you coming back Sam?
    Sam: Are You?
    Herman: I think so.
    Sam: I think not.
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  6. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    New twist in the wuitting. oSu wide receiver Tylan Wallace opts out at halftime of the Cheese-It Boel.
  7. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    I heard that. That’s a pretty ****** move, halfway through the game. But, college football is full of “all about me and screw the team” prima-donnas.
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  8. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe if Mullet takes another salary reduction the dude will opt back in.
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  9. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    What is worse is they let him come out in uniform for the second half. He should have been given bus fare back to Stoolwater and sent on his way.
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  10. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    You're nicer than I am. I would have told him to get his *** out and find his own way.
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    Last edited: Dec 29, 2020
  11. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    But Mullet and OSU have set a precedent that will be difficult to undo.
  12. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    I’d have told him he better use his speed to race back to his locker as the equipment manger is in the process of cutting his lock and throwing his street clothes in the trash.

    I joked that soon players would quit at halftime, but this was even better. What’s left? Deciding mid-play you want to quit and the after the ball is snapped run straight to the locker room?
  13. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

    If the rest of t(e team does not kick his @$$ ... I’m fuddled ... quit mid game .., omg
  14. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    How un-woke of you...
  15. Badass

    Badass 2,500+ Posts

    I’d try lol ... and go down like a tik tok viral man hahahah
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  16. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 1,000+ Posts

    Maybe he got tackled real hard
  17. LousianaHorn

    LousianaHorn 1,000+ Posts

    What a crock quitting on your team DURING a game!
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Using 247, Brennan Eagles was the 3rd-highest rated WR to sign at Texas since 2010
    He was the #10 WR in the 2018 class.
    Other WRs in the Top 10 that year: JaylenWaddle, Justyn Ross, Amon-Ra St. Brown and Terrace Marshall.

    Eagles led us in receiving once in 22 games (5 for 142 vs. ISU)
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  19. 22Horn

    22Horn 500+ Posts

    what players did not play yesterday due to opt out etc or injuries or 'all about me'?
  20. Chop

    Chop 5,000+ Posts

    And Mullet's hair is definitely Pre-Madonna.
  21. wadster

    wadster 5,000+ Posts

    I was not. He lost 3 games his 2nd year at Houston against lesser competition. He could win some big games, but too many losses to crap teams. Course history continues to repeat itself. Reality is he had an NFL level QB and a All American DT.
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  22. zinger

    zinger 250+ Posts

    Totally agree with all your thoughts. Think that when recruits sign their letters of intent to play for Texas, the opt/out option should be presented to each player. If they sign that option, the University will also have the option to opt/out of the scholarship should the player not perform up to expectations.
  23. zinger

    zinger 250+ Posts

    When a player opts out are they still allowed to use the training facilities? What about all the other benefits they were getting including the dining room?
  24. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    Too many of todays issues in college football leave the coaches in a no win situation. Send him home, dont let him us facilities, etc... and maybe he does not get drafted, bad mouths the program or other players on team get upset. All cases, the coach loses. Let him stay and use facilities and this is a message that I am sure the coach does not want to send. Dam if you, dam if you dont.
  25. MajesticII

    MajesticII 1,000+ Posts

    When did things get so F'ed up ? When did society put the cart before the horse ????
    When did the inmates start running the asylum ??? Things weren't F'ed up like this back in the early 1960's !!!
  26. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    I tend to agree. To enforce the issue would take a special kind of leadership at the HC position. I can’t single Herman out because to my knowledge no HC has taken a stand on the issue.

    What one HC could do would be to issue a carefully worded statement, along these lines:

    “While we wish the best for ______ as he pursues his dreams of playing at the next level, we are at the same time disappointed by the decision. Football is a team sport. We win, we lose and we sacrifice together. The message to the team by opting out is not one of unity, and not in the best interests of the program.”

    Interesting and as we saw Tuesday night, many opt outs provide valuable opportunities for other players.

    There might also be another way to handle this. Knowing that a player intends to opt out, preemptively, the HC could announce that he has informed that player (those players) that his position will be filled in the bowl game by another player who will not be leaving the program. That approach might prove to be a win-win if the HC is on board.

    Fundamentally though I agree with the OP.
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  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Official that Derek Kerstetter will return
    Back to OT (possibly RG)
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    Last edited: Jan 7, 2021
  28. beijinghorn1

    beijinghorn1 500+ Posts

    According to Saban schools do have this option as scholarships are for one year only.
  29. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    How many scholarships per Power 5 school are pulled after one year would be an interesting statistic.
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    With Kerstetter plus Karic, Majors, Angilou, Jones, Johnson, Okafor, Hookfin, Moore, Ghirmai and Imade, it will not be bare bones depth for the new OL coach
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