Random Thoughts

Discussion in 'Cactus Cafe' started by LonghornCatholic, Feb 20, 2024.

  1. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    I think I’ll go with cremation when my time on this side is up. But I don’t feel right leaving my ashes to family, children. Why put that burden on them? And what becomes of my ashes when they die? Wifey and I will probably pick out a columbarium at one of the beautiful churches we attend.
     
  2. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    Mrs and I decided on cremation some years ago. Unless one of the kids wants the ashes there will be none on offer. I can’t imagine any of them wanting them. Keeping a person’s remains is an odd practice imo, but I guess it is comforting to some.
     
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  3. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Speaking as a guy who operates a crematory I will say I used to want to be cremated, but I have since reverted to preferring traditional burial.
     
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  4. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Sounds like an interesting story Sangre.
     
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  5. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    Interesting. Worse than embalming?
     
  6. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    In some ways, absolutely. This is my personal opinion.
     
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  7. utahorn

    utahorn 500+ Posts

    SN, could you elaborate? My wife and I are looking at cremation. What is the downside? Just curious.
     
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  8. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    It is impossible to retrieve 100% of the remains after cremation. Your family will get, in my estimation, 97-98% you, and 2-3% bits of people who were cremated before you.

    And bits of you will end up in subsequent sets of ashes. My estimation has not been scientifically measured, and if I am off, I am making it a little worse than the typical reality.


    Most crematory operators do the best they can with the tools and processes available to them. But it is never a perfect process, nor will it ever be. And if you ever wind up with the occasional unscrupulous operator it can be awful. I'll link what is by far the most egregious case I am aware of.

    Criminally unscrupulous
     
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  9. utahorn

    utahorn 500+ Posts

    From the link provided by SN - Families of the deceased were given concrete dust instead of cremated remains.

    Wow. Thank you SN for the info. Still will probably go cremation but after reading the article, I feel better armed to ask questions.
     
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  10. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    Embalming just seems too painful.
     
  11. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    In three years of working here, not one person has complained nor even said one word while we were embalming them. Trust me, I would have remembered it if they had.
     
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  12. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    Some of them would leave a bad review on the internet too if they weren’t satisfied.
     
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  13. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    Is cremation cheaper than traditional burial?
     
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  14. Pickle_Nuts

    Pickle_Nuts Will travel with tickets.

    There is an emotional price, if your loved ones did not share how they wanted to be laid to rest, you end up with ashes at home you are unsure what to do with.

    Currently, the family is in possession of three loved ones.
     
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  15. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Yes.

    However, there are many permutations and service options that can drive the price of cremation up to being very close to the simplest burial options.
     
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  16. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    I know a woman whose husband committed suicide and she refused to accept the ashes. But this was a situation whereby they were separated, so I guess she wasn’t the decision maker after his death. Terrible circumstances….guy was a cop who got caught looking at nude photos while working off duty security at Walmart. Lost his police officer job. Shot himself in parking lot of a church.
     
  17. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    That seems like an overreaction on all parties involved.
     
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  18. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    Was someone pressuring her to accept them? If so that is weird.
     
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  19. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I doubt it, but I have no way to know for sure. Funeral homes in Texas are obligated to hold the ashes for two years, after which they may dispose of them in one of several prescribed manners. Our funeral home holds them in perpetuity, because the boss doesn't care what the letter of the law says. He cares about not being dragged to court 10 years later, even if we were following the letter of the law.
     
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  20. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    The woman is sister to my sister-in-law….I just remember her telling my SIL, “I told them I wasn’t taking the ashes. I don’t want them!” So they were at least offered, but maybe not pressured.
     
  21. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    Can you share what some of those prescribed manners are for abandoned ashes?
     
  22. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Place ash container in the coffee area.
     
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  23. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    We could maintain our own scattering garden, but our funeral home doesn't own a cemetery. We could contract with a cemetery to use their scattering garden. We could release them in a public waterway (I think). I know it is legal in Texas for individuals to scatter ashes in a river or stream, so I am assuming we could do that too. We could bury them in a cemetery, but we would incur a ridiculous amount of expense to do that.

    All in all, we have enough closet space to store boxes of cremains for a really, really long time.
     
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  24. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    If any of you have a wife half as sweet as mine, you’re a very lucky guy. I don’t know what I did to deserve such a beautiful kindhearted woman. Always loving and supportive. Always :hookem:
     
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  25. Vino Bevo

    Vino Bevo Wine - how classy people get drunk

    Same here LC - I thank the Big Guy each day for looking past my inadequacies and blessing me with such a remarkable spouse. Glad to know yours fits the same mold!
     
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  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, but how long did it take to train her (or maybe vice versa)?
     
  27. Vino Bevo

    Vino Bevo Wine - how classy people get drunk

    The fact I don't know the answer to that probably indicates the direction in which the training has been directed over the past 30 years... :tap:
     
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  28. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    It occurred to me today while I was standing in line at the bank that I probably have never wiped my butt with my left hand
    Maybe I have at some point, like if my right arm/hand were injured, but I can't recall such an occasion
    Then I wondered if I should go ahead and do it maybe just once but I can't think of a reason for that either
     
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  29. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    When I shuffle off this mortal coil, I am to be cremated and a portion of my ashes scattered in three places. Some in Egypt near Khufu's Great Pyramid, some in Germany in Berlin, and a small bit in Norway to satisfy my Nordic Blood. The rest of my ashes she can keep, or all of them can be scattered as requested above.
     
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  30. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    They should outlaw yoga pants size large and above.
     
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