The First 100 days

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by theiioftx, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    The disproportionate coverage is really remarkable. And of course, a conservative demonstration should get far more coverage because of the relative difficulty of getting conservatives to DC for a rally.

    For example, I think the "women's march" got about 10,000 people. Well, you can find 10,000 pissed off liberal women in a few blocks of DC. That's a ****** turnout. Frankly, they should be laughed at and humiliated with a turnout that low. If conservatives rally in DC, they're coming from all over the United States. If you get 100,000 for a March for Life, that's the equivalent of getting about 800,000 liberals to rally in DC.
     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Some of their exhibits and posters were pretty remarkable too. Kind of stuff you do not easily forget.
     
  3. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Chilling enough for a politician, and that joker is a "doctor" himself. Even more chilling.
     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Another good Tucker Carlson segment -- this time on the sudden "wokeness" from Goldman Sachs -- its only 3m

     
  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    That is what a company that knows it'll be bailed out if things fall apart does.
     
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  6. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    End the Federal Reserve.
     
  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    Frankly, I'd be fairly happy if we just did a real audit if the Federal Reserve.
     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  9. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I was just thinking about our last two Republican candidates in 2008 & 2012

    McCain and Romney. :whiteflag: Look how much respect the Republican voters lost for who these two. Makes me appreciate what Trump has done. These last two would have bowed to the fake media.
     
  10. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    I would be happy if the Fed targeted a -1% inflation rate. I would be almost happy with a 0% target.
     
  11. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    I wouldn't want deflation for the same reason I don't want inflation. It screws with the credit system. Obviously inflation screws with creditors, but deflation screws with debtors. I would rather leave both of them alone and have no inflation.
     
  12. mchammer

    mchammer 5,000+ Posts

    Did you know all the gold in the world (which is basically all the gold found and refined throughout history save for what is lost in sunken boats) can fill 4 Olympic sized pools ?
     
  13. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    This is the same charge as what many have lodged against the Clinton Foundation for years, and was the basis for the thread on HornFans between @Joe Fan and myself back in 2017. IT ignores the fact that the Clinton Foundation is an operating charity, not a pass-through foundation.

    If it was a pass-through, most of the foundation's revenue would be passed out to other charities. And if the expenses were high, it would likely indicate a fraud.

    But the Clinton Foundation doesn't operate on that business model. Instead, it operates as an operating charity, spending money around the world for charitable purposes. This link provides a pretty good summary of what charity work they perform, and thus where they spend their money.
     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    You are certainly something of a unicorn. It makes me wonder what we could get for you on eBay?
     
  15. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    Lol, I'm sure I could be had for a song.

    In any event, I'm not completely alone. Charity Watch still gives the Clinton Foundation an A- rating. Charity Navigator rates the Clinton Foundation as 3 stars out of 4, but their "Transparency and Accountability" rating is 4 stars.

    Look, I get it. Saying that the Clinton Foundation is shady but not altogether corrupt flies in the face of Hornfans orthodoxy. Anyone who fails to condemn everything connected to Hillary, with no redeeming considerations, is a liberal extremist who deserves ridicule. This is just one example of why I stopped coming here, and I'm not sure why I keep checking in on this thread.
     
  16. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    With no Fed and a commodity standard there would be price deflation but slow money supply growth. Price deflation means we all get richer without making a penny more. It happens anyway, but it would be more wide spread without printing dollars like we do today.
     
  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    That is one reason why it was such a good currency.
     
  18. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Grrrrrrrrr!

    Part of the money is used to maintain the Clintons' personal residence at the top of the Clinton Library. This residence is rarely used by the Clintons or anyone else. Not acceptable as a charitable use.

    Part of the money is used to fund travel and expenses of the Clintons, regardless of whether they are working on foundation business.

    Chelsea Clinton worked for the foundation after her graduation and made a nice salary, although it wouldn't impress Hunter Biden. I find this inappropriate as well.

    I'm not sure what kind of charitable work they actually did. I remember they made a lot of noise about helping in Haiti. There were a lot of talk about a scandal in Haiti regarding the CF. I would look up the details, but you would deny it anyway.
     
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  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts

    So that's why he was banging strippers instead of banging Chelsea Clinton.
     
  20. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada Liquor Man

    I think Hunter wasn't banging Chelsea because he could get a girl that looks better than a 2.
     
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  21. nashhorn

    nashhorn 2,500+ Posts

    You mean he could ‘buy’ a girl better than a 2.
     
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  23. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    This is something I've never heard about. I poked around briefly on Google, and it seems to be true that there is a private residence for the Clintons on top of the Clinton library (and similar residences for Carter and Bush 41 at their presidential libraries). This seems inappropriate to me, but I haven't found anything saying whether the construction and/or maintenance were funded by the Clinton Foundation. I did find that the Clinton Foundation has a regional office at the library too -- not sure if this is part of the private suite, or a separate office.


    True.

    I've heard this allegation before, but I've never seen it backed up.

    It is my understanding that Chelsea has never drawn a salary from the Clinton Foundation. She has earned questionable income from a few sources, including NBC and a couple of corporate boards, but not from the Foundation.

    My understanding is that the Clinton Foundation's work in Haiti was a colossal failure. That doesn't make the organization a fraud. It does cast doubt on the liberal, do-good philosophy underpinning the foundation, but that's a different point.
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Disagree. People get to say whatever they want in here. What passes for "the political right" in here hardly ever agrees 100%, on anything. And the only censorship from management we see is when someone goes over the top with racism or x-rated language. Other than that, you can pretty much type what you want. No one is stopping you.

    I have, of course, personally been the recipient of multiple attempts of censorship and even outright banning. All from your side, of course. But, so far at least, you good folks have been unsuccessful at that. And, for the record, I have never originated any similar attempt of my own going the other direction. The primary reason for that is that I dont really care what you guys say. Plus, I enjoy a good argument. And I am convinced the main reason you (and others like you) run away is because you cannot stand up to a presentation of facts from outside your own echo chamber. You always go back to where everyone thinks the same and where everyone avoids the same inconvenient facts. It's a make-believe world. I suppose it is easier and safer, but isnt it boring when everyone agrees? When everyone wakes up every day waiting to told what new thing to be offended by? Ugh. My guess is when you do come back from one of your Odessies, it is because you were getting bored with the banality of your own people (tell me I am wrong). Lastly, your safe-place liberal-echo chambers will not last forever. Internal conflict in this type of environment is always inevitable. They always turn into circular firing squads. History is full of real life examples -- one of my favorites is how the Bolsheviks turned on the Jews in Russia, which was also always inevitable. (for this story, I recommend Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Center — Two Hundred Years Together ).

    As to the Clintons specifically, now that the possibility of Hillary ever actually becoming President has passed (or, at least I think it's passed), most Democrats have come to grips with what and who the Clintons are, were and have always been. Supporters were always willing to look past their bad behavior as long as they otherwise got what they wanted. Bill could rape and assault women as long as he was firmly pro-abortion. Which he always was (lol, what a life). This is THE STORY of modern Democrat politics. It's a series of Faustian negotiations. You are one of the few holdouts, a true believer in the Clintons. Which is OK, it's your call. But you cant expect to waltz into a place like this and not get knocked around for being so naive.
     
  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    On top is Trump's attempt at a two-state solution
    Bottom is the 1949 UN partition

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  26. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Israel didn't accept the 1949 proposal did it? Neither will accept Trump's new proposal. Both organizations want it all.
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    I know that "Palestine" has rejected every offer since 1947 including the UN proposal.
     
  28. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Both sides have rejected most of the proposals. Pre-WW2, Palestine rejected every one and Israel accepted them but Israel had no power and no legal right to land. Then after WW2 Israel started rejecting proposals after they took over land and had leverage. I can't talk to specifics but I know that Palestine wanted proposals soon after WW2 but might have rejected specific offers because at that time, like now, they are at a disadvantage politically and militarily.

    At this point Israel isn't going to accept anything that means giving land away. And any agreement from them will have to be watched closely because even now they are starting settlements outside of land that they have legal right to be in. That means Palestine will not agree to anything that doesn't make Israel stop and give that land back. It is theirs legally to begin with.

    It is a mess on both sides. Both sides are guilty of violence.
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Iran has already come out against Trump's proposal
    They want the Palestinians to have the Golan so they can more easily lob missiles
     
  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 2,500+ Posts

    Good thing this doesn't involve Iran.
     
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