To Be a Democrat Today...

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by dukesteer, Oct 20, 2020.

  1. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    I have braced myself.

    To be a Democrat today...

    You have to believe that Russia manipulated the 2016 election so that Trump could win, even though a massive and almost three year investigation run by individuals not favorable to him failed to identify any connection.

    You have to believe that the Obama administration did not spy on Trump, and that the falsification of FISA documents was just an innocent mistake made by well-intended patriots.

    You have to believe that most policemen are bad, and out to get minorities.

    You have to believe that by eliminating the police or radically cutting budgets we will be safer, and better off.

    You have to believe that the rioting, looting, burning and devastation that occurred this summer was isolated and insignificant.

    You have to believe that the positions Hunter Biden was given by foreign companies, with no experience, and the money he received is much ado about nothing.

    You have to believe that it’s OK to destroy 33,000 government emails and smash devices so that no one can examine them.

    You have to believe that the outstanding economy Trump built was really built by Obama.

    You have to ignore the fact that for the first time in decades real wages and purchasing power for average Americans has risen over the past four years.

    You have to believe that energy independence is no big deal, and that relying on foreign sources is not a cause for concern.

    You have to believe that making NATO members pay their fair share is a bad thing.

    You have to believe that a dialog with the leader of North Korea is not a good thing.

    You have to believe that sending an airplane filled with billions of cash bills to Iran is normal and not a payoff.

    You have to believe that giving Iran a path to the bomb is fine, and that there is no reason not to trust them.

    You have to believe that anyone who wants to enter our country should be able to do so, and that those who enter — legally or otherwise — should be given unencumbered access to our healthcare system, and voting rights, the same as legal citizens.

    You have to believe that Trump is a racist and an anti-Semite, even though he has Jewish grandchildren and is loved by many black Americans.

    You have to believe that Make America Great Again is code for a call for White Supremacy.

    You have to believe that Trump intentionally mismanaged the Covid response because he doesn’t care, and that every death is his fault.

    You have to believe that the economic dip due to Covid was Trump’s fault, even though he “followed the science” and shut the country down as Fauci advised, and then extended the shutdown, per his recommendation.

    You have to believe that we should be listening to the WHO, even though, as of mid-January they were claiming that human-to-human transmission was not possible.

    You have to believe that all Republicans are bad, and racist.

    You have to believe that nothing Trump does and nothing that Republicans do is good, and that virtually everything he and they do is evil.

    You have to believe that the policies of the Democrats over the past 50 years has lifted up black communities and has improved their way of life, and also improved the safety and security of our inner cities.

    You have to believe that BLM is a noble organization, and that Antifa is simply a group with ideas and methods that are good for this country.

    You have to believe that partial birth abortions are just fine, and that killing a living entity just prior to birth is acceptable because “it’s the mother’s choice.”

    You have to believe that burdening employers with massive rules and regulations is a good idea for the economy, for businesses, and for workers.

    You have to believe that if Trump is successful in reducing drug prices, it is no longer a good thing.

    You have to believe that Obamacare is a good program, even though premiums spiked, coverage dropped, plan choices disappeared, deductibles rose and you really couldn’t “keep your doctor or your plan.”

    You have to believe that helping black colleges is not a good thing because Trump did it.

    You have to believe that offering school choice is a bad thing, even though the schools — especially in the inner cities - are terrible.

    You have to believe that moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem, promised by Bush, Clinton and Obama, is now a bad idea because Trump made it happen.

    You have to believe that it’s OK to destroy a good man’s reputation (Kavanaugh) using any means necessary, including witnesses whose own claims could not be verified by their friends and associates.

    You have to believe that it is acceptable to threaten, spit on, and physically attack Republicans in restaurants and in their homes, to dox them, and also to encourage such behavior.

    You have to accept that many among you, and not just the fringe elements, actually wish for the death of those on the other side.

    You have to believe that America is an inherently racist and flawed country that has to be dramatically reformed.

    You have to believe that our founding fathers were so flawed and racist that any reminder of them, be it statues or cities named for them, must be eliminated.

    You have to believe that the First Amendment only applies if the content is consistent with your belief system. If not, opposing viewpoints should be censored
     
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  2. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Let’s see someone refute that list.
     
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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Democrat media is pretty open about what they believe

     
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  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    It's always so productive when you define the opponents platform FOR THEM then demand a response. Not sure that would get a passing grade in my wife's 7th grade debate class.
     
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  5. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Non-responsive.
     
  6. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Husker
    Then why don't you point out any errors you see?
     
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  7. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    Did it say this was the Democrat Party platform? I thought this post was showing what it means to BE a person who votes for Democrats. There is a difference. Of course, the party won't come out and say all of this, but it is what they do and believe.

    But, I would fail 7th grade Debate Class too.
     
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  8. AustinBat

    AustinBat 2,500+ Posts

    You left out that you have to believe a man with dementia is qualified to run the US.
     
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  9. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    You have to believe that someone with obvious dementia doesn't actually have dementia.
     
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  10. Garmel

    Garmel 2,500+ Posts

    It's just a stutter. :lol:
     
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  11. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    Husker, are the 7th graders in your wife’s debate class allowed to dodge the questions?

    If you disagree with any or all of the assertions, build the case. Attacking without offering a counter argument exposes you.

    I also posted this on the Nextdoor Neighborhood app here in CA. (Yes, I’m brave.) After I received 34 hearts (endorsements) in about two hours, that number magically dropped to about 17. Funny how that happens... I figured that the social justice police would take down the post, and they still might.

    None of the naysayers — and there were only a few, BTW — could offer a single counter argument. They just went into TDS mode.
     
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  12. dukesteer

    dukesteer 2,500+ Posts

    Back to 41. Makes me wonder if something is happening under the radar.
     
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  13. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Husker- pass the weed.
     
  14. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    Jesus I thought I'd never get to the end of this post :beertoast:
     
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  15. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    I didn't see anything inaccurate listed there.
     
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  16. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 1,000+ Posts

    You won't. You will just see them attack the messenger, name call, and talk about how stupid and uneducated the person is. That is their mantra.
     
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  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    I guess Husker could not find any inaccuracies. He won't be posting in this thread again.
     
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  18. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    He's just getting tips from his wife to debate you 7th graders.
     
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  19. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    And he was just complaining about the type of posts he just made.
     
  20. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    It's a straw man clearly not intended to stir debate but rather to build a caricature of the opponent. The post is akin to the interviewer meme "Tell me how often you beat your wife?"
     
  21. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    These aren't strawmen. As I went down the list just about all of them are things that Democrats/Progressives and Liberals attack Trump for.
     
  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I'm certain you believe that. A good portion of them are invented positions, almost as if that's what conservatives WANT the progressive position to be. It's not worth any progressive's time to respond as they are caricatures of liberal views. This is why this board has lost it's soul. It's wafer thin projections of the opponents arguments with the intention of getting some likes and mocking comments rather than wanting to understand why they think like they do. dukesteer achieved his goal. He got likes here and on Next Door. He's been validated.
     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  24. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    Yup. If you go back to around Page 500 on WM, there are reasonable people on both sides who rightly criticize both Dem and GOP positions on issues. Now, it's just an echo chamber. It's not indicative of "the norm" for where the average person falls on the political spectrum any longer.
     
  25. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    You see the echo chamber irony here, right?
     
  26. bystander

    bystander 5,000+ Posts


    I read today that in the scholarship of critical race theory, it has been supposed that being white is property. Here is the exact comment:

    "From the CRT perspective, the white skin that some Americans possess is akin to owning a piece of property, in that it grants privileges to the owner that a renter (in this case, a person of color) would not be afforded.[32] Cheryl I. Harris and Gloria Ladson-Billings describe this notion of whiteness as property, whereby whiteness is the ultimate property that whites alone can possess; valuable just like property. The property functions of whiteness – i.e., rights to disposition; rights to use and enjoyment, reputation, and status property; and the absolute right to exclude – make the American dream more likely and attainable for whites as citizens."

    And guess what? Property can be taxed...
     
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  27. Horns11

    Horns11 5,000+ Posts

    I'd ask that you count up the posts leaning left and the posts leaning right and see which one is more "echoey."

    I can find examples of my own where I've discussed right-leaning issues.
     
  28. horninchicago

    horninchicago 5,000+ Posts

    I’m just busting your chops a bit in that you quoted SH and echoed what he said.

    I’m glad it mostly leans normal.
     
  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    Well at least Husker is a sponsor and is helping Dion keep site running.
     
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  30. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Trying this out.

    Then I assume you agree with Trump on some of these issues? I dont think anyone is saying that as a Democrat you have to disagree with every item on this list but I think its safe to say you disagree with at least 75% conservatively.
     
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