Will BO bow to Trumka?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Nov 17, 2012.

  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    ""There are things the president can do, and we'll be expecting that leadership from President Obama," AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told reporters after the election.and
    But unions are also pressing for new measures that might help boost their sagging membership rolls. New investment in infrastructure would bring construction jobs for trade unions. Immigration reform - and a path to citizenship for 11 million undocumented Latino immigrants - would create a vast new pool of potential union members. And new regulations could remove some obstacles to union organizing.

    "A new rule expected from the Labor Department would force companies to reveal relationships with so-called union-busting consulting companies even if the companies have no contact with workers. The National Labor Relations Board is expected to start work on a rule that would force businesses to turn over workers' phone numbers, emails and shift times to union organizers.
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  2. Namewithheld

    Namewithheld 2,500+ Posts

    Thuggery is the only way Unions can increase their membership and this Administration is all-in.
     
  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    For conservatives this kind of gov't intrusion boggles the mind

    I would guess it would drive libertarians crazy.
    I am surprised the professed libertarians on WM haven't weighed in on this abuse freedoms by the BO admin
     
  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez 10,000+ Posts


     
  5. Michtex

    Michtex 1,000+ Posts


     
  6. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts


     
  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    NJ
    I agree with this
    The employees should be allowed to decide for themselves whether to organize"

    which should include whether to give out information to unions.
    If the employee wants to give that information out they can.

    What if I as an employee don't want all that information given out?
     
  8. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts


     
  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    NJ
    UH Were you aware of this?
    starting in late 2011

    “The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) has finalized its administrative rule requiring all employers within its jurisdiction to post notices informing employees of their rights to join a union free of threats and intimidation by the employer. The advance notice of the finalized rule has been published on the internet and the anticipated publication date of the final rule in the Federal Register is August 30, 2011. The rule is scheduled to take effect 75 days after its publication in the Federal Register.

    and
    “In addition to physical posting at ‘conspicuous places…readily seen by employees, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted,’ any employer that ‘customarily communicates’ via intranet or internet with its employees as to ‘personnel rules or policies’ must display an exact copy of the Notice on such site(s), or a link to the NLRB’s web site which reads, ‘Employee Rights under the National Labor Relations Act.’”


    Maybe BO would make his union bosses happier by just forcing people to join unions.
     
  10. AustinBat

    AustinBat 2,500+ Posts

    Good grief, Horn, now you have given BO an idea. I think that could be done by Executive Order to bypass that pesky Congress. As someone who is starting to get the SS that I paid into, I think all retirees should be able to start a union ( no, not AARP) to bargain for higher monthly benefits. [​IMG]
     
  11. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    AB
    I'd like to take the credit ( blame) for that but did you see the picture of BO with Trumka and a Moveon executive at the WH 3 days after election?

    Think it is any coincidence that Moveon and unions are staging the Walmart protests Friday?

    No the community marxist is one step ahead.
     
  12. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts


     
  13. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    NJ??
    Read again the quote you posted and show us wehre in that posting it limits it to a union already in place at the company?
    does it not say "A " union?


    Why would you interpret that to mean only the union already operating in that company?
     
  14. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    A poster saying "you have a right to join a union" doesn't do anything for employees of a company that doesn't have a union. If there is an active effort to form a union for such a company, I see no harm in making sure that all employees know about the effort and get relevant information so that they can make an informed judgment about whether to join.
     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Half of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut.

    NJ
    so the employer posts in public places where all employees can read that the employee has a right to join a union with no hassle from the employer

    and you think the employer isn't doing enough?
    You think the employee needs more help from the employer?

    It doesn't seem like you have any confidence the employee is smart enough to figure it out?

    You may be right.
     
  16. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts

    No company should be required to post nor give out union information. If the union wants them they'll get them.
     
  17. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    He who controls the flow of information, wins. I love it.
     
  18. 123456789012345

    123456789012345 100+ Posts

    "I don't know enough about either of these issues to form a firm opinion"

    If you are going to take that attitude you're just going to have to find yourself another place to post.
     
  19. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life 5,000+ Posts


     
  20. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 1,000+ Posts

    I'm not suggesting that companies should be required to give away the house, like a casino would be doing by disclosing what card is next. I'm just asking that companies be required to compete on a level playing field. A slightly better (although still weak) analogy would be that it is akin to requiring the casino to disclose the distribution of cards in the deck.

    Yes, the union organizers are allowed to distribute information to potential members. But that is easier said than done when they don't have contact information for the potential members.
     

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