Thoughtful and Well-Reasoned Political Discourse

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Chop, May 18, 2024.

  1. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

     
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  2. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    If it's true that "In democracy, people get the government they deserve*" then we have been very naughty indeed

    * Alexis De Tocqueville
     
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  3. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

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  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's on the American people. We elect clowns like this. We don't want people who do anything. We want ****-talking self-promoters. That's what we reward.
     
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  5. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    Why is that though? Of all the brilliant and wise and thoughtful and decent people in this country we end up with the corrupt, demented fuckwits who aren’t fit to run an East Texas Dairy Queen.
    I mean what is it in our national character, or wherever this comes from, that produces such ****** outcomes.
     
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  6. Horn6721

    Horn6721 Hook'em

    Who is their right mind would run for public office knowing every comma or period they ever wrote or word they uttered would be twisted and blasted over all media styled in worst possible light
    PLUS drag every member of your family into glaring spotlight
     
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  7. Gylcomer

    Gylcomer 500+ Posts

    “ If votin’ made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.” Twain. A statement he made 100 years ago.
     
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  8. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Sounds like Hornfans.
     
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  9. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    This right here. The rulers have set up a system that incentives voting for crazies. They pick the candidates. They set the Overton window. They control the media, entertainment, education, etc.

    We have a formal democracy but not an essential one. Essentially we are run by moneyed interests, even those outside of the US, and a huge bureaucracy.
     
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  10. Gylcomer

    Gylcomer 500+ Posts

    Notice that we only have two parties…much simpler to manipulate that way. Most democracies have several.

    Like Teddy Roosevelt, Trump is a populist…out of their control. In addition he shared traits…like mean, uncouth and would knock a few heads around. They thought they controlled T.R, then turned on him immediately when they discovered they didn’t. Were it not for T.R we wouldn’t have the national forest throughout the west. The rich wanted those lands.
     
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  11. Gylcomer

    Gylcomer 500+ Posts

    They won’t let you in unless you are controllable..most of the good are filtered out before they can reach the upper levels of power.
     
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  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Nobody let MTG in except the voters in her district. She had better people on the ballot in both primary elections. The voters rejected them. They like that she's a clown. They think that means she's tough and fights for them. The problem is that they don't know what a member of Congress is or what their job duties are.

    Same with Lauren Boebert. That district was represented by Scott Tipton - solid conservative who did his job. But he wasn't a hot chick with a rockin' bod. He didn't smack talk. So he got ousted in his primary election by a chick who gets felt up and gives handjobs to strange men in theaters.

    And the Dems are no better. AOC unseated a very liberal Democrat, but he didn't jiggle his boobs in a college video, spout socialist talking points, and instead just did his job. Of course, virtually the entire Congressional Black Caucus is useless trash talkers who don't do anything productive.
     
  13. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Does this signal that it's time to bring your President Camacho icon out of retirement?
     
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  14. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    An Amendment overturning the Citizens United case would be a good first step.
     
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  15. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Well, fortunately there is that esteemed body, The United States Senate, where they do not behave like this.
     
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  16. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'm afraid so.

    "f**k yeah!" - to quote the great man himself.
     
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  18. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

  19. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    So a guy can't even wear a light blue checkered jacket without being called a "Smurf" these days...

    :idk:
     
  20. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    But the inference here is that the members do know.
     
  21. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    I didn't vote for that Representative, so don't blame me.
     
  22. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Follow the money.
     
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  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Restricting freedom of speech isn't the answer. Make it easier to see who's writing the checks.

    Campaign finance reform is a scam. All it has ever done is encourage donors to conceal their donations and make tracking them more difficult.

    I'd much rather George Soros just write out big checks to candidates and the Democratic Party than to write out a bunch of small ones to candidates, PACs, Superpacs, front organizations, etc. that ultimately accomplish the same outcome as just bankrolling the candidates but are much harder to track.
     
  24. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    No it wouldn't. That isn't what that case was about in anyway. That was an attempt by Hillary Clinton to outlaw a video made by a PAC to criticize her.
     
  25. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Lap dogs for the big corporations.

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  26. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    The ROK shows the World how parliamentary debate is done:

     
  27. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Meanwhile, North of the Border, in North Korea you can witness a very well-behaved parliament/assembly in action. No disrespect or disruption can be found in this political body:

     
  28. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

  29. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

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  30. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

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