Looks like we are headed to a 12 team playoff........

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by LousianaHorn, Nov 30, 2022.

  1. LousianaHorn

    LousianaHorn Kabong

  2. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    it's about time!
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  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I preferred 6 team.
  4. Pomspoms

    Pomspoms 5,000+ Posts

    I prefer 30 team with two divisions
  5. moondog_LFZ

    moondog_LFZ 5,000+ Posts

    I prefer 8.
    But 12 works.
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  6. militaryhorn

    militaryhorn Prediction Contest Manager

    I'd prefer all 10 conference winners plus 6 at large...screw the independents make them join a league.

    12 works for now.
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  7. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Most of the first round games would be glorified scrimmages. No thank you.
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  8. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    Way too many, but I guess they want NCAA basketball type tournament.
  9. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Why 12? I guess they plan to have four of the the non power five conferences have a play in?
  10. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Eight for my vote.
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  11. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah I was in favor of the five Power-5 champs, best overall non-Power-5 champ, and 2 at-large teams making it.

    Assuming things hold, it would have been like
    UGA - SEC
    Michigan - B1G
    TCU - XII
    USC - Pac
    Clemson - ACC
    Tulane - non-Power-5 best
    tOSU - at large
    Bama - at large
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  12. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    It needs to be 4, 8, or at most 16. Single elimination--no "play ins" or weird brackets.
  13. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    This further pisses away some of the greatness of college football.

    Yeah home games and bye weeks have no impact on final outcomes. You’ll have to whittle teams down so there’s less bias in scheduling and rankings. Repeats of major games is fairly useless. The SEC still will be out to protect its own.

    If you want the NFL, watch the damn NFL.
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  14. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts


    I think 4 teams is fine.

    8 would be ok.

    I'd prefer no more.

    If they must have more, then make it 16 so it's single elimination.

    4 or 8 would be best. IMHO.
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  15. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    I’m good with 8. No one should have a Bye.
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  16. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    I'm betting P5 conference champions and 7 at large bids. This would allow for any of the Non P5 schools that have a 10-1 or 11-0 year to get in and the fluke conference championship upset loser to still play. If you're on the fringe ranked 13th with 3 losses you don't belong anyway.
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  17. LAGA4

    LAGA4 500+ Posts

    Keep it at 4 and let the computer pick em, no committee.
    Program the computer so strength of schedule means something. I love great non conference games.
  18. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    I've never really understood why they distanced from the BCS modeling in order to have humans do 100% of the placement. That was the whole impetus for creating the BCS in the first place. Getting those 7 at-large teams would be an easy proposition.
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  19. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Unless it’s………….

  20. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    f**k it! Everybody gets to play. 128 teams, single elimination. No more regular season games. So what if Minnesota northeastern school for auto repair only plays a one game season every year, they get a participation trophy for losing to Georgia by a record 142 points.

    Playoffs are another "made for ESPN" put together by the Fantasy Land department at Disney.

    You are either good enough to be top two or you play in a "revenue bowl", get to believe next year will be far better than this one, buy season tickets early for next year, and tell yourself "this is our year". (At least until kickoff.)
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  21. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    I became a nutjob fan of college football I'd say in '66 when I was 11. Ever since we hear every year how only 3-5 teams have a real shot at winning it all . why do we need 12 teams? Its shouldn't be a reward for a team like UNT or MTSU for finishing 11-2 with a conference championship.
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  22. Pickle_Nuts

    Pickle_Nuts Will travel with tickets.

    I like this plan. While agree, West Salem School for Neurology and Hair Care could get it, its not likely they go far.

    Imagine a 10 -2 Texas this year with losses to Alabama and TCU and they win the Big 12 by beating TCU, a 12 team playoff would benefit them. I also like the comment you need to be in a conference, sorry Gold Domers.
  23. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts


    No need to use "what ifs" or "couldbes", go with reality. I think the best case scenario comes from 1968. I will go to my death believing that we had the best team in the country on December 1, 1968. We tied Third Ward when Layne missed a FG and Mike Simpson fumbled a punt. Then, we went to the High Plains and humped the puppy against Tech. Enter Frank Erwin and James Street, and the monster was created and rolling to thirty straight wins.

    On January 1, 1969, Texas was the best team in the country but had a loss and a tie.

    Editorial comment, that season was aided by a hotel maid in McLennan County. I sincerely hope out alums made sure she never had to work again.
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  24. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    I mostly like it, I just find the timing funny. "Oh no, looks like we won't have a single one of Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, or Oklahoma; probably only one SEC team total ... better speed up the expansion."
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  25. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Or maybe its realizing how stupid it is to have only 4 teams in a "playoff" with such a big pool of teams. :idk:
  26. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Sure but after 8 years, why are they just realizing it now?
  27. Your Wrong

    Your Wrong 500+ Posts

    I haven’t read enough about it to know the plan. But are conference championships still a thing? If they are, do we effectively discount the loss?

    The prospect of having to beat a team three times in a season is asinine. Twice is pretty dumb given there are 130 teams. But that’s probably the thing - there won’t be that many teams. And a lot people lose out in that scenario. A split of two games with the game one winner going home doesn’t prove who’s better either.!

    Right now, you have 3 loss teams ranked 11-17. Then a 2 loss team that beat one of those two loss teams. There ain’t no way in hell you know who are the top 2 in that bunch. The larger the pool the more teams with an argument to be in grows larger.

    You’ve got a collection of morons that couldn’t figure out, at least to my knowledge, that margin of victory is important and that caps could be built into models. If you’ve put the game away by the 3rd quarter, that’s worth something. If you score two garbage TDs, who cares. Humans are not so great at subjectivity.

    Then there are questions to answer. Is a two loss Tennessee without their QB truly top 12? Are we necessarily saying that KState is better than Texas? If we swap Tulane for Bama, I bet we have the same record. Is it who had the better season or is it who’s better now? Are we willing to put a 4 loss team in over a 2 loss team? Over the years I’ve heard X team is hot. And sometimes, they are playing well, but it’s more a product of their mediocre schedule. This is not the NFL with fewer teams, league mandated and theoretically balanced schedules. At least until further tweaks are made to bring it closer to the nfl model.
  28. havoc7701

    havoc7701 Sponsor and Aggy Ridiculer

    YW raises some really good points. I’m kind of ambivalent of 8 team vs 12 - I’m just glad as it’s WAY better than this idiotic and needlessly exclusionary 4 team system.
  29. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    12...so the top 4 get a bye? Teams 5-12 play? Then those winners play the top 4 (getting to the 8, 4, 2)?
  30. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    The Rose Bowl and also because it took over 100 years to realize letting newspaper writers just name a national champion was dumb. I'm actually surprised they didn't just move forward with a 16 team playoff like pretty much every other football division. I think we eventually end up there.

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